I'm a LHBH thrower. I use a beat up Maul for longer drives because that disc turns over and doesn't fade back. For sharper or shorter curves I use a Mako or Warship tipped up. You should experiment with disc that are under stable or a lower speed like 6 and see if you can get them to turn over and not come back. My son has a lot of whip and uses a leopard for shots like this.