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Rad article about disc golf media

nate22

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So RAD, formerly Discgolfpark Australia released this article after a local photographer simply asked them to use watermarked pictures, and to acknowledge him as the photographer.

Here's the link to it

https://rad-creations.com/the-role-of-media-in-disc-golf/

Or read it here..

Media in Disc Golf
Although disc golf may not be a sport that's quite large enough for prime time television, the growing amount of media exposure is certainly something to be noted. Back in the day, you'd be hard-pressed to find a YouTube video documenting your favourite tournament and articles printed in newspapers or magazines were far and few between. Now, live streaming, podcasts, and write-ups galore are right at your fingertips no matter where you live.

While media involvement in the sport as a whole is fantastic for helping to increase awareness worldwide, there can also be some downsides when bad attitudes or unprofessional behaviour comes into play. We're not taking sides here, but news of major media changes during this off-season is just one example of the kind of polarization that a small sport should try to avoid.



How Media Coverage Can Help
It doesn't matter if you're looking to start your own disc golf blog or if you want to partner with some of the biggest media names in the game – going about it the right way is really all that matters. The end goal of anyone in a media capacity should be to grow the sport, increase exposure, and present disc golf in a positive and exciting light. Anything else is just a distraction and creates mixed messages that often work against the #growthesport mission.

Disc golf is not a huge industry like basketball or baseball, and while media professionals deserve to be paid for their hard work, an attitude of sharing should also be considered. When you have the desire to show newcomers to the sport some of the amazing aspects of disc golf, letting someone use a photo you took or sharing the byline of an article isn't a huge deal. Don't get us wrong – everyone deserves credit where credit is due, but no one likes a hoarder either.

Supporting Media Efforts
For lovers of the sport who are looking to get involved in a media capacity, or if you already are and need a refresher on the basics, there are a few rules of thumb that will help you to find success. First, one of your goals should be to increase disc golf exposure to the mainstream world, so whether that's showing off someone's sweet new shoes or highlighting the work a pro put in at a local course to help redesign it, your target audience should be more than just those who are already obsessed with the game.

Just like in any other professional capacity, good people get hired when they demonstrate attitudes of teamwork, clear communication, and consideration for everyone involved on a project. If you fail to be easy to work with, send harsh emails demanding credit for your work, or refuse to support others who have the same goal that you do, you won't get very far.

Ultimately, the role of media in growing disc golf is so much larger than many people realize. It's not just about taking awesome action shots or writing up articles – individuals in a media role get to use their talents to help promote the sport that we all know and love. Instead of cutting each other down and infusing a sense of competition when it just isn't needed, let's take the attitude of teamwork into consideration and see how collaboration can help to further everyone's goals.

In the end, the goal is to grow the sport and support each other as the sport grows.


THOUGHTS ON THIS?
Is it OK to use other people's work, and claim its to #growthesport?

I simply can't believe what I read in this, working together should involve supporting each other and lifting others up, not stepping on people and stealing from them
 
You reckon the DiscGolfPark folks wanted credit for the courses they installed, to enhance their chances of earning money doing more?
 
OK. Let me make sure I understand....RAD is a company that makes money designing and installing DG course. They used a photo without permission so when the professional photographer asked them to use his watermark and give credit, they ranted?
 
Looks like an editorial of a disgruntled business owner. Veiled reference to the off season media kerfuffle included as well...or so it seems. I am all about having an opinion, but let it be know you are editorializing. Getting things "your" way, is not necessarily "growing the sport" or even good for the sport. Oh yeah.....this is just my opinion.
 
... Don't get us wrong – everyone deserves credit where credit is due, but no one likes a hoarder either....

Since that is their attitude, they should be willing to share some of their money with the photographers and writers they steal work from. After all no one likes a hoarder.

Besides it is simply professional courtesy to use a watermark and give credit. Even if the photographers is not asking for payment, it will help them and their business.
 
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Oh, the audacity to demand credit for your work! I guess I'll never get far in this industry...:rolleyes:

Obviously nobody should listen to this. This is an example of a company who couldn't steamroll somebody, and now they're salty and looking for their next victim. Red flags, ladies and gentlemen, steer clear.
 
OK. Let me make sure I understand....RAD is a company that makes money designing and installing DG course. They used a photo without permission so when the professional photographer asked them to use his watermark and give credit, they ranted?

I wonder if they ran that by their PR department, first?
 
Is Courtney Elder going to share the revenue with disc golf photographers to help #growthesport? Probably not huh? Seems about par for the course with grifters and scammers, play on others emotions to some fantasy idea as they rob and steal others work. Shame on RAD and shame on Courtney for their actions and stupid defense for them.

How hard is it to ask the photographer or artist if it is okay and to give them recognition for the work they did? To try and blame the one being stolen from under some fantasy of growing the sport is as stupid as is dishonest. Also very dumb to attempt to go online and defend this behavior like most people wont see right through this facade. Way to kiss your integrity goodbye as you introduce yourself to the DG world Courtney.
 
Oddly enough, RAD is a Chris Finn project (known for DUDE clothing). He was just on Smashboxx this week talking about it (haven't listened to the pod yet)
 
Anybody want to drive me to the store? For exposure? Want to cook me dinner, for exposure?

Want to use your thousands of dollars of camera equipment and skills you've honed, so I can use it for my own websites, for exp-...oh wait I'm not going to say anything about your work. Want to send me those pics you took? I mean it took like 0.1 of a second for the picture to happen it's not like you did anything.
 
Oddly enough, RAD is a Chris Finn project (known for DUDE clothing). He was just on Smashboxx this week talking about it (haven't listened to the pod yet)

Wonder if he signed off on this before it went live? Seems like a horrible PR move over something as little as giving photo credit to the photographer. Maybe there is more to the story here but from the outside looking in my first introduction to RAD is this petty article explaining how it is okay to steal, err I mean share. :doh:
 
Oh, the audacity to demand credit for your work! I guess I'll never get far in this industry...:rolleyes:

Dude disc golf is my hobby and fun times, it's not like you're actually doing work. It's all fun times. You're doing it for fun. Stop scamming people for money when you're just having fun along with other peoples' fun. Editing hours of video and standing around filming and researching stuff is as fun as driving 10 minutes and throwing discs without counting score and driving home. All your equipment is like the same cost as a few discs, stop pretending like you have an investment.

:|
 
the worst "deal" a professional can take is the promise of future revenue in lieu of taking revenue now.

I wouldn't trust that (given personal experience) at all. It's a non-starter really. growthesport is one thing, but not at the cost of making revenue and providing for your well-being and that of your dependants.
 
Indeed, was odd that the article was posted AFTER his smashboxx appearance. I'm sure Terry and JVD would have loved to pick over the article with him.

This is about giving credit for other people's work, it's not that hard... Sheesh.
 
Does RAD charge money to design courses? I mean they better not. More courses means more growth for disc golf. It's not like planning stuff and organizing stuff is "real" work, they aren't like crafting things and other tangible products. It's just time. So really I guess they will design your course for you.

And you can then say that you made it because you called them to do it for you and they don't need any credit, just the goodness in their hearts of knowing that disc golf has another course.
 
Well, from an entertainment perspective, I'm glad they're not as lazy as I.

I would have just apologized to the photographer, added a credit, and been done.

Which would take a lot less of my time than crafting an essay in defense of my actions, and publishing it online.
 
Dgp is all about getting credit...the courses they make are named 'discgolfpark' on all the giant signs and tees around the place. Even older established courses getting a revamp with new baskets/signs get the rebranding.
 

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