TheBeardedFatGuy
Birdie Member
I have a clear picture in my head of your throw from everything you describe having never seen it. I would guess SW, HUB, Slowplastic all do to.
Sorry, but do you have any idea how pretentious and questionable that statement is? I sometimes sit on a picnic table near the first hole's tee pad when the course is crowded just to watch people's drives. I've seen nearly as many techniques as there are people to have them. some people can have form that makes even me wince, yet they have optimized their sub-optimal techniques to where they still crush 400'. And I've seen textbook forms that looks smooth and perfectly timed that go 200' max. I've seen run ups that look like half seizure and half response to fire ants biting the thrower's nads, but the distance result is excellent. I've seen rounded throws that should, by all rights, end up in the Columbia river instead of on the fairway. So for you to say you know my throw so exactly from what I've said here...a bit hard to swallow.
By focusing on grip strength you are spending time working on something that won't make any difference if you fix the bit further up the chain that is wrong.
You might as well say, "as long as your hip rotation is correct, you don't even have to move your arms". And, by the way, if I hold the disc upside down with just one finger under the rim and so loosely it falls out of my grip on the reach back, I guess you'd say that can all be fixed by correcting my form earlier in the chain, right? Because grip doesn't matter, so if it's that loose and held in a bizarre way, shouldn't matter one bit - that's what I'm hearing. Some have admitted grip has some effect, but more than a few keep insisting it doesn't have any effect at all.
...if you want us to tell you it's the right thing to do to improve, that's not going to happen. If you are upset that we disagree with you when you basically urge other people to do the same then I'm sorry but i'm still going to disagree.
I come here to discuss, learn and share, not to get anyone's approval. And I'm not aware of urging anyone to do jack, but if someone decides to disagree with you and work on getting results from adjusting their grip, half the posters' statements about grip having zero impact isn't helpful to anyone. Neither is telling them they need to work on other aspects of their technique first. You can have an opinion on that, you can even have way more experience than I do, but its still just your opinion, and it's not one anyone has to share. So often it gets said on this forum what basically amounts to, "I know more than you, so you should just accept everything I say as fact and ignore your own experience, ideas and anyone who dares disagree with me."
And please stop with the appeal to authority arguments. Top player does not necessarily equal top coach.
Especially when your being omniscient about aspects of my drive you've never seen and I've never discussed - how can any of the top players hope to compete with god-like disc golf powers like that? The fools.