Marmoset
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yeah. I'm sitting here with one of each and I think it is a Cobra, too. The newer Cobras have different tooling underneath but the older ones are identical to your photo.
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Snagged this "remake" Roc the other day at PIAS.
It's flat, semi gummy & feels super compact.
Anyone else thrown one of these?
Isn't that just a bog standard Star Rancho Roc? I mean, it sounds like you got a "good" one in that it's not super domey, but otherwise what makes it a remake? Just the fact that Innova doesn't print many of these anymore? I'm pretty sure they still do limited runs and there's still lots of old stock out there at retailers that's been sitting around forever.
Ummm...I hate to be that guy, but that disc is a Cobra.
I mean I like Cobras and Champ Cobras are still cool. It's just, you know...Roc thread. :|
Ummm...I hate to be that guy, but that disc is a Cobra.
Two things, as tbird888 mentioned I've never seen a USDGC Roc with a regular X-Out stamp. The only Champ Ontario's I remember were USDGC Rocs.Hey, I'm just glad I know what it is now. Never handled an ontario roc, so I wasn't sure how much different the mold was than a rancho. It definitely felt like a roc, but a little less bulky.
How could you tell so easily?
Snagged this "remake" Roc the other day at PIAS.
It's flat, semi gummy & feels super compact.
Anyone else thrown one of these?
Two things, as tbird888 mentioned I've never seen a USDGC Roc with a regular X-Out stamp. The only Champ Ontario's I remember were USDGC Rocs.
For me though the true tell was the tooling. I'm old enough to remember back when Innova discs had no underside markings beside the weight. Custom stamped discs often had an ink stamp on the underside telling you the mold, but that was hit or miss. One of the easiest disc confusion combinations was the Cobra and ORoc, they have a lot of similarities. The tooling is different, though. The last number in the zip code of the ORoc tooling is kinda under the "s" in discs while the last number of the zip code of the Cobra tooling is outside of the comma after discs. Back in the day if was just an easy thing to remember if you were not great at noticing the other differences, which I wasn't. Tooling was your easy ID until about the mid-90's when all the Rancho tooling started to look the same.
Innova attempted to replicate the 01 CE Rocs with the run Jamie's referencing. They were produced in incredibly limited numbers. There is a bog standard Star Rancho. They're the domey turds everyone else is mentioning.
And thanks for the correction, 3P. I feel stupid not remembering that even the X-out USDGC Rocs get USDGC stamps.
Profile please. Let us know how it throws if you don't choose to keep it pristine.
I intend on selling it to buy more stock plastic. I despise throwing anything hard to replace.
Here's the profile...
I intend on selling it to buy more stock plastic. I despise throwing anything hard to replace.
Here's the profile...
I intend on selling it to buy more stock plastic. I despise throwing anything hard to replace.
Here's the profile...
I saw some really good DX Rocs today. I didn't need any because I found some really good DX Rocs this summer. It's a good time to go DX Roc hunting. :thmbup:Does anybody still throw plain old DX Rancho Rocs? Most of mine are 10+ years old. How are the newer runs?