tl problems :(

[thechamp]

RRs get touchier at longer distances and with winds than the Beasts so for 380' plateau and up the Beast starts to compete and perform better because at 380-410' at least it matches the fade of the RRs i have. I'm not surprised by the RR fading less at 350' because it is a slower disc too.

I guess my point was for the OP really, if he's throwing his teebird 300 I dont think a beast would be his best bet. A Champ Roadrunner or Leopard would work better in the woods. Generally the wider the wing the more turn and fade which Im sure you know. Maybe a pro Beast for wide open shots would be a good step up for him though.

If he throws a teebird 300' I think a star or champ Leopard between 165-170 would work nice for him. Out on the course I throw a champ Teebird 375' or so and I find the TL doesn't turn very much at speed especially when new especially in the plus mold.