Lancerswimmer89
Birdie Member
Yeah, MJ can rip that thing perfectly. I always thought it was odd her didn't bag a buzzz, but I guess when you can toss a Comet that well, there's really no reason to.
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I've got a 165g Z-Line Comet that I love the flight of but dislike two things about it: 1) the plastic feels a little too slick for my liking and 2) it's too light for me to feel like I can give it a full rip.
If I move to the ESP line will that give me a better grip? Should I go up to 171g or all the way up to 180g?
Thanks!
TripleB
If you haven't tried X plastic, I think that's a logical next step. X plastic is hard to describe but it's definitely grippier than Z.
Are you sure it's the weight?
From how you described your Comet's flight in that other thread, the X plastic will also give you a left to right flight or be useful for high anhyzer shots. It may still punish your full power throw if there's any "herky-jerky" motion (to use Barry Schultz's words), but it will go FAH if thrown smoothly with the right hyzer.
If you're going to get one, I'd say get X in the 170-180 range. I suppose it depends more on what's available than one weight being particularly desirable.
You guys convinced me to try a Comet. Ordered a Big Z max weight from Amazon. And you're all right. This thing is beautiful in flight. It's also incredibly large, which is slightly off-putting, but it just flies so damn nice.
I have a Buzzz X-Line, and I don't care for it very much....sort of reminds me of the star plastic from Innova. But I have a Ringer (well, used to have a Ringer until my 10 year old decided he liked my 174g Ringer better than his 165g Ringer) in the X-Line and it feels a lot better than the Buzzz.
When the Z doesn't slip out of my hand (or I don't grip lock it for fear of it slipping out of my hand) I get a perfectly straight flight out of the Z-Line. It may be something else because I have a 167g DX Leopard that I love.
I would like to use my Comet as my dead straight mid to go along with my overstable Roc and understable Manta (that actually flies like the Comet just further). Thought of adding a Stratus as a left to right disc.
Thank you for your help and advice!
TripleB
I picked up a super pearly pink Z-Comet the other day(Non BigZ). She's a beauty...but woobuddy it's got some stability to it. I've thrown comets off and on for close to 15 years and this thing is a pig for a Comet. Anybody else stumble across some of these more overstable Comets lately?
Since it seems like a grip issue, here's what I do. I love Z plastic but can identify with your grip issues. Personally, I lick my fingers before many throws. Maybe some folks would get grossed out, but it's worth a try with the Comet you already have.
According to a certain website the ESP and the X have the exact same softness and grip...what makes so many people prefer the X-Line over the ESP line?
^I have only seen a half dozen of each recently, I know others have thrown and own way more than me. It just seems that ESP tend to be flatter and X tend to have more shoulder, which means straighter rather than flippy...flat ones often turn more in this mold. Both plastics are good. I have thrown some ESP's even 30' farther than my X, but they have showed more turn. I have thrown ESP's that are just as straight as my X. It depends on the specific disc. It is worth saying my X initially felt like a hollow thuddy plustic when I would hold or tap it...hard to describe plastic feel/sound...but as it got scuffs and stuff it felt less "cheap". Really enjoy it. I also really like ESP feel. Personally I would throw either and not care as long as I like the shape of the Comet.
I'd still recommend trying an X Comet at some time.
It just seems that ESP tend to be flatter and X tend to have more shoulder, which means straighter rather than flippy...flat ones often turn more in this mold.