strive
Eagle Member
What do you do when that happens???
I mean do you just walk up and lay another disc in?
I mean do you just walk up and lay another disc in?
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The tricky part is whether the target has a "lid" on it. For example, you have to count shots going down into the center cylinder of an Innova Traveler because it's an open top. But for our typical targets with a chain support, dropping thru the top is not good if observed by the group or official.
Go immeidately to your local lottery store.
That's great. Did you call it?
Fair enough, jenb. So the disc is replaced in the basket.
But what if the disc is replaced in the basket in the conventional way & not through the top (the rules do not specify how the disc is to be replaced), so that it could not be said that it has been "observed by two or more players of the group or an official to have entered the target below the top of the tray or above the bottom of the chain support". One could (successfully, imo) argue that the rules allow for a disc so replaced to be considered holed out.
No one has still chimed in to say how one would play the "lie"... is my interpretation of jenb's quote accurate?
It doesn't matter whether or not there's a "lid". A disc that enters the center cylinder of this basket from the top clearly has "entered the target . . . above the bottom of the chain support" and has not holed out.
The fact that the disc was observed to have entered the target from beneath the top of the chain support during the replacement of the disc does not negate the fact that the disc was observed to have entered the target from above the top of the chain support during the throw. Therefore, the condition that the disc was seen to enter "illegally" is still satisfied, and the hole out has not occurred.
803.13B says that if it was "observed by two or more players of the group or an official to have entered the target below the top of the tray or above the bottom of the chain support is not holed out.
Sorry bud - didn't count!
Tell Harold a member of the Rules Committee that. I'll ask him if that target was granted a variance.
im just curious to which disc you were throwing that fell through
im just curious to which disc you were throwing that fell through
Silly Noobies, look at his banner, questioning him about rules is like telling Threeputt he doesn't know anything about discs or Garublador that he is an idiot when it comes to proper form.
What is great about it?That's great. Did you call it?