I was looking for something to replace my Force with for an overstable distance driver since I was getting more turn out of it than I wanted and I was at the Nati throwing various discs and Fred Salaz had me try a Rampage, D-1, and Cannon after watching me throw. The Rampage was amazing and the initial throws were way beyond my wildest expectations when I held it. Awesome disc and I look forward to getting to an open course and getting it figured out.