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Coffinator1 said:latitude 64 core. this is a midrange, not a driver, but I love it. When thrown full power (and I have a lot of power) this disc will barely turn over, maybe 2-5 degrees. When thrown 95 percent, it will fly perfectly straight in a line. I can also just put a little hyzer on it and it will fly straight at full power. at the end of its flight it will fade a tiny bit, only 3-4 feet though. I can easily throw this disc 275 feet in a perfectly straight line. There is a surprisingly large ammount of room for error too, I can release with too much hyzer and it will flatten out, or with too little, and it really fights flipping over on my. Love this disc, a must have in any bag.
Mark Ellis said:A paper plate.
It might not be effective or useful but it is reliable. And unless there is wind it won't go very far, either.
Short of anything that is very overstable or very understable, reliability is mostly dependent on the skill of the thrower.
Fizzy said:jubuttib said:What Zones have you been throwing? It is indeed reliable, but when driving at least the ESP flies very well, not like a stone at all.Fizzy said:The Zone is insanely predictable. It barely flies. It's like throwing a stone.
As for more versatile discs: TEEBIRD. I've never thrown a more predictable driver.
What I mean is, it generates very little lift. Most putters generate less lift than most mid-ranges and drivers, but the Zone lifts less than most putters. As a side-effect, it doesn't even become nose angle-sensitive into strong head-winds (which makes it incredibly predictable.)
I've thrown a first run (stiff is a board) D-Zone since it first came out. I own an ESP Zone and for a while a new D Zone. And now that I think about it, you're right: the ESP and new D both "fly" more than than the first run. I like the first run better though.