Need a Neutral Driver.......Your votes needed!

[bhadella]

I can't seem to fall in love with a driver. And I need help. I have a bunch of drivers that work in open spaces but not on tight/straight lines. I want something with the same straight or small HSS path and minimal fade of a TL when I throw at 95% power (320-340 ft. with a TL/Teebird) that will carry for another 30-40 feet. Once a TL takes a few tree hits it becomes damn straight the entire flight. I want a true flying driver that I can anny and hyzer when I want to modify it's flight but is darn neutral. Most drivers for me use too much space laterally (big HSS and then LSS) like a Champ Valk , beat in Star Wraith/Destroyer or Prodigy D4 for a neutral flight or go straight and then fade (S PD, Prodigy D1).

Here's a list of potential candidates as I can tell (please add some if needed):

Discmania C TD
Discmania S CD
Discraft Surge SS
Innova Viking
Innova Krait
Latitude Flow
Latitude Riot
Vibram Lace

What should I try out?

 

[dusty5150]

Tracker maybe. I carry one for pretty much what I think you're describing; an all around, multi-purpse, can do anything with it driver? I throw every shot with a Tracker; long slow hyzers, spike hyzers, anhyzers, straight shots, short overhands, rollers .. and it's damn trustworthy in the wind too.

The L64 Flow will need room like a Wraith/D4 - I throw all 3, and they are very similar.

Good luck!

 

[bhadella]

Oh, and we can use the term "control driver" inplace of "neutral driver" if you like.

 

[Buiscutboy]

I dunno. Maybe try an SL.

It has an L in the name, so it has to be similar :thmbup:

 

[bradharris]

The answer: TL.

At 320-340 range, the TL has more distance potential. Trying to go to a higher speed disc means you're going to need more lateral movement to get greater distance.

If you need a driver you can rely on to go dead-straight, stick with the TL and keep working in the field to squeeze all the distance you can out of it. Being able to throw over 300' on a straight line should make you very successful on most courses.

 

[apparition]

I vote Sword or Volt.

 

[MattyIce]

yep Tp Sword

 

[discgolfcrazy]

The answer: TL.

At 320-340 range, the TL has more distance potential. Trying to go to a higher speed disc means you're going to need more lateral movement to get greater distance.

If you need a driver you can rely on to go dead-straight, stick with the TL and keep working in the field to squeeze all the distance you can out of it. Being able to throw over 300' on a straight line should make you very successful on most courses.

so what would you say the distance potential of a teebird

 

[Halcón]

Volt.

 

[bradharris]

so what would you say the distance potential of a teebird

Probably closer to 400.

Not that I've ever been close to 400 myself...

 

[whentherainscome]

The answer: TL.

OP already throws a TL. My "longer TL" is a Saint. My Optos fly like my Champ TLs did, and my GL straightened out after a few tree hits and hasn't lost much stability since then (and I use it a lot). Compared to my Star TL, even the GL has a lot better HSS and a less dumpy fade and a narrower flight overall.

Good luck on your search!

 

[bhadella]

I want the quick fix; a faster straight disc to get me that tunnel 350-370ft (10% more distance) instead of a ton of field work to turn my 320-340 fairway power into 350-370 fairway power. Maybe it doesn't exist. Here in Charlotte (especially for a LHBH) I don't have many chances to throw a Distance Driver with a big flex or large finishing fade to my full power off 350-370 ft. It will have to be a tunnel/straight shot.

 

[811rv]

Try Volt, versatile driver

 

[bhadella]

So the Volt has 20' more carry than a TL? Yummy.

 

[bradharris]

I want the quick fix; a faster straight disc to get me that tunnel 350-370ft (10% more distance) instead of a ton of field work to turn my 320-340 fairway power into 350-370 fairway power. Maybe it doesn't exist. Here in Charlotte (especially for a LHBH) I don't have many chances to throw a Distance Driver with a big flex or large finishing fade to my full power off 350-370 ft. It will have to be a tunnel/straight shot.

And I want to be able to dunk a basketball. But no matter how many pairs of shoes I try, I can't seem to find the few more inches I need to get above the rim.

I don't think you will find the quick fix you're looking for. I would encourage you to keep working with the TL and realize that on holes like that, it's okay to sacrifice a few feet of distance for accuracy. Most of your competition will be off the fairway, scrambling to try to save par.

 

[filobedo]

Pro TL, Pro Leopard, QJLS, beat Stalker or Saint.

 

[Monocacy]

Agree that the TL and Teebird have much more distance potential. A beat DX Teebird flies very straight, and rivals distance drivers if you can give it some air. TL should be similar.

For a quick fix, look at learning to hyzer-flip an understable distance driver like a Valkyrie, Mamba, etc., or maybe even a glidey fairway driver like a River. I found that Champ Valks have less fade then Star, especially used Champ Valks. If you hit the line and angle just right, you can get a long, straight flight with minimal fade. Wind, of course, becomes more of a factor with an understable driver.

Edit: bradharris makes a good point - in the woods, staying on the fairway is more important than a few extra feet of distance.

Good luck!

 

[onemilemore]

The Volt suggestions are pretty solid. But I'll throw my vote in for the Discmania FD. Feels very similar to a TL, but is packed with more glide, giving it that easy distance potential. It might be an easier transition than going to a wider rim.

 

[Aubin]

This thread reads like my life story a few months ago.

Background: I throw teebirds/TL;s as my main driver. I carry 4 or 5 in my bag, champ TB, 2-3 Tl's in various wear, and a beat DX TB. I throw them an average golf distance of 280-330ish but can get them close to 350 in a field if I try.

I use predators and sidewinders (speed 9) for utility discs. Anything else in the speed 9-11 range doesn't go any further than a teebird for me, and I've tried them ALL.

I used to use Nukes for max D, but again they barely broke 350. Couldn't get them up to the proper speed. Switched to pro Destroyers, problem solved; smaller rim, better throws, 350-375 distance well past my trusty TL's.

Now, I know I should be throwing further. that's fine, I'll get there but also realize I'm 37 years old. I'm gaining distance but at a VERRRY slow clip. Sometimes when people say, 'just learn to throw a teebird 400', they forget that not everyone has the ability, time, or age/genetics to just hop right on that.

I too wanted that 'sweet spot pro destroyer' longer than a TL distance with the laser like accuracy of the TL. Pro destroyers work for about 2 days, then they have too much lateral movement from wear.

Enter the Vibram Lace. Now, I am NOT a Vibram fanboy; I actually don't like any of their other discs, at all. Just not for me. But I tried the Lace on a whim and, it is what you seek; a 'sweet spot' pro Destroyer that goes further than a TL, on the same controllable lines. It does wear in but very slowly.

The only drawback to it is jumping from a speed 7 rim to a speed 12. It takes some getting used to, but it's worth a shot.

 

[bhadella]

I understand the points on getting my fairways out farther and that losing control for distance isn't a winning proposition. Hell, in my past tourney (on a 6000 ft course) I threw Distance Driver x 2 (once for just cause my Boss is the easiest 330' meathook I can throw ), Fairway x 8 and Midrange x 8 off of the tee. I just want to sneak a driver 30' feet out past my TL/Teebird/Leopard range when given the chance.