Frank Delicious
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well we definitely didn't need a JR post 4 times.
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seabas22 said:JR said:Here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxqXHF9DPng
What do you think of his position of the head and the neck?
Looks like he is well anchored for lag.
I think to maintain the hyzer swing plane without the shoulder's flying open to also get massive width in the swing it helps to keep the head down through impact and helps focus on the hit. Compared to Marc Jarvis who was throwing distance anhyzers it looks like Wiggins jr. uses a lot more lateral energy than rotational. I'm not sure if Wiggins can improve the front side bracing to get more rotation without slowing the lateral speed, but he does appear to finish like a hammer thrower with the feet crossed up. Wiggins foot doesn't pivot in the traditional disc golf way through the heel, but rolls from weight on the inside of the foot to weight on the outside more like a traditional ball golfer and kachtz does this as well. IIRC kachtz has done ball golf distance contests with a club head speed of 135mph or something, as well doing as the Big D in the desert the other year and threw well over 200 meters. I think you can draw a lot of comparisons to Jamie Sadlowski and Olympic hammer throwers.JR said:I would like to hear from either David how come junior holds his head so far down? One can lag with the head being more upright. Judging by the usage of the airborne left leg at the release he has listened to Feldberg and possibly golf coaches. The kind of upward angle he threw at is the closest disc golf equivalent of a golf swing and it makes perfect sense to see if golf form translates to a similar arm swing plane. It is basic physics why Feldy and David junior throw with the left leg off of the ground. I just wonder if the lesser left leg movement forward for David junior vs Feldy is enough to counter the massive body rotation and arm swing. Seeing as Feldy moves the leg farther forward for more counter force to the previously mentioned movements. But Feldy does it already with control drives. To me it would make sense to maximize the left leg kick to the right and back to front movement because David junior rips harder than Feldy with control drives.
Feldy too and golfers keep their heads down. So did David junior. Caveat: i won't put money down yet along which center line David junior was pivoting before i look at these videos more closely. Without doing that i wonder if keeping the bottom of the jaw on a parallel plane as the line between the shoulders is better for power generation. Disc golfers don't need to look down at the ball to aim to hit it. I do have an unusually mobile neck and despite that i feel tension and resistance to a throw in the shoulder muscles and lower neck muscles if my bottom of the jaw is misaligned with the shoulder line. The roration of the torso below the non moving head feels unhampered when the shoulder intersection line is parallel to the bottom of my jaw. So i wonder if David could increase his power generation by removing that resistance and get 260 meters with equal winds :-D
If he rotated around the line from his right heel through the right arm pit the low hanging head would put more mass away from the axis of rotation reducing the rotational speed. So raising the head may add more power from that cause as well.
Yes i realize this was asking about improving the longest official level ground toss ever. I just think he could do better and that's better for all of us. Popcorn munching while waiting for even more distance from him![]()
He has made enough of those millions to last him for a lifetime, and has nifty jacket now, too. =)mrlaroo said:"Agreed. I wish Bubba Watson would drop the clubs and take up discs full time. With some exposure like that, we might be able to get the city to allow ball and disc on the same precious land in my lifetime."
That is funny, drop out of golf and the millions of dollars for disc golf and the hundreds of dollars that come with it. These purses that come with disc golf are sad. My buddy finished 2nd in this last comp here in Orgon in the pro division and all he got was 90$.lol and he payed a 50$ entrance fee. What does PDGA do with al lthe money they bring in cause clearly it is not going to the golfers.
dwiggmd said:JHern said:I've been hearing some chatter about the new distance record, some people are unhappy that this was held at a time when many of the major big arms were booked with something else. GG, AJ, CS, etc., were not present, and perhaps conditions on this day were such that they would have thrown even further.
This was posted...it was over David Jr's week of spring break...He cannot afford to miss a lot of school...This date conflicted with several other events...I did try to publicize the event as widely as possible and especially to known throwers...The timing was not perfect, but it was the best I could do. No one who wanted to participate was turned away.
dwiggmd said:Regarding this part: " perhaps conditions on this day were such that they would have thrown even further." Well, maybe so. The biggest fish is always the one that got away. But for some frame of reference chack out the top places in the distance competition at the PDGA Pro Worlds last year in Santa Cruz. http://www.pdga.com/files/documents/2011ProWorlds-DistanceResults.pdf
7ontheline said:...I don't think JHern was taking any shots at anyone...
7ontheline said:...only dreaming of 900 perhaps...
Frank Delicious said:Was that the Disc Go Ball mrlaroo?
jubuttib said:He has made enough of those millions to last him for a lifetime, and has nifty jacket now, too. =)mrlaroo said:"Agreed. I wish Bubba Watson would drop the clubs and take up discs full time. With some exposure like that, we might be able to get the city to allow ball and disc on the same precious land in my lifetime."
That is funny, drop out of golf and the millions of dollars for disc golf and the hundreds of dollars that come with it. These purses that come with disc golf are sad. My buddy finished 2nd in this last comp here in Orgon in the pro division and all he got was 90$.lol and he payed a 50$ entrance fee. What does PDGA do with al lthe money they bring in cause clearly it is not going to the golfers.
Unlike you I checked my info before I posted. =)mrlaroo said:That was his first major win, in todays economy I would not say he has not made enough to retire yet. I have not looked at his overall winnings but that is my guess.
I just looked at 2012 and he has made 3.2 mill in 8 events but most of that was the masters in winnings. What do they say now you need 2.5 mil to retire at 55. Looks like I won't have the option to retire.lol
1 more edit, he has made 15 mill in his career so yup looks like he could retire, lucky dog.
mrlaroo said:Frank Delicious said:Was that the Disc Go Ball mrlaroo?
Yes Frank it certainly was.
mrlaroo said:jubuttib said:...he has made 15 mill in his career so yup looks like he could retire, lucky dog.mrlaroo said:"Agreed. I wish Bubba Watson would drop the clubs and take up discs full time...
mrlaroo said:What is TD? How much is the purse for Worlds?
Frank Delicious said:mrlaroo said:What is TD? How much is the purse for Worlds?
Tournament Director. Here's a tourney from around here that only had 9 pros play and they got paid out much better than what the guys at Disc Go Ball did:
http://www.pdga.com/tournament_results/79284
I mean I'm not a fan of the PDGA either but payout and all that junk is ultimately up to the TD. The PDGA just sets guidelines on how many people are supposed to get paid out. The PDGA only gets $50 for the tourney to be certified as a C-tier I think.