does more spin always equal more turn? I watched a buddy chuck a star roadrunner nearly 500 feet into a headwind very straight from a 45 degree hyzer to pretty flat with little turnover.. but when asking how he didn't turn that into a road runner into a roller, my other buddy said that its because he has very smooth spin and a lot more of it than me but I would have rolled that roadrunner all the way over.. can someone explain this?
I'm a noob myself, so someone should double check my answer, but it sounds like your buddy did whats called a hyzer flip. Its when you use an understable disc(like the road runner), and throw it as a hyzer. When someone gets a good amount of spin in the disc, it will cause the disc to "flip up" from the hyzer position to flat, as you described. It then tends to glide farely straight for a long distance and then have a small fade at the end. Great for tunnel shots.
Edit: Saw bogey no more's post. He's got a lot more experiance then I so, I would go with his answer about it being speed not spin, but do look up the hyzer flip, because that is what he did i believe.
Also, just as a tip, coming from one noob to another (no offense if your not a noob) but I would drop the high speed driver, and even your fairway driver if you have one. You'll see all over the forums that people recommend playing with just a putter, or just a midrange in the beginning and develop good form and disc spin, as you call it.
I'll tell you from my experience, I bought a bunch of drivers and other discs in my first months and learned nothing. Put them aside and develope your game. I play with only my mids, and putter. You'll get form and accuracy and you really will learn to throw far and control the disc.
The forums has tons of useful info on how to develop grip, form etc.. PM me if you want some links. I've been going through it a lot lately. But honestly the big deep bombs are gonna come with time and form, not the magic disc at the store.