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The problem is multi-use land. Originally in park master plans you had open space, but you got into silly arguments about putting pavilions and horeshoe pits in open space, which technically violates your master plan since nothing is supposed to go in open space. So a lot of places classified the land as "multi-use" and that gave you more freedom to do stuff and not go against your master plan . . .
It's hard to see that side of the issue if you are just a disc golfer, though. I've played a lot of courses that just simply should never have been installed given how poorly they integrate into the park, but when I mention that to other disc golfers they just stare at me. They don't care, they just want to play golf.
Of course I've never been to Edora and have no idea how much conflict there is there. In general I can see the problem from a parks and recreation viewpoint, though.
U got my sig #313
#340. Done. Good luck!
Signed. #457ish... Good luck!
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I would suspect the great majority of that $135K went into trees and shrubbery which will become the new course's obstacles, and not baskets, signs and tee pads. I'm sure non-DG playing residents of FC who have heard about that probably grimmaced about it a little bit.I am i reading this right, the town is spending $135,000 on a new disc golf course and the old one is being reduced?.
you've spent significant time trying to dissuade people from expressing interesting in saving a disc golf course. the petition will help more, imo. it won't make or break their campaign, but it won't hurt.Do you guys really think this is going to help?
I was surprised how poorly the Superclass idea went over in a few places with old 4,000' courses. To me it seemed like a great idea to ensure a future for those courses, since otherwise they are basically obsolete. A lot of disc golfers don't like lids, though. Maybe a "Roc-only" designation would work better?I DO believe that a solution could be found for Edora Park that doesn't involve removing 9 holes. I think this course is a prime candidate for a "historic" designation. This would include a re-design to a "superclass-only" course and new signage that reflects both these aspects. I'd be strongly in favor of a pdga-subsidized program that helps defray costs of new signage and creates awareness across the disc golf community that respecting the "superclass-only" designation will help preserve the existence of these courses and good will in the community that may result in additional single-use courses being installed.
I'm not trying to be a jerk, because I do hope you are successful. It just seems like a lot of politicking went on before this that resulted in Bill Wright being involved in a $135,000 course project that appears to be the trade-off for the Edora closure. Was your club shut out of these decisions? I mean, the new course is opening so this didn't happen last week. These decisions would have been made quite a while ago. Did this just get sprung on you?You guys are amazing! Well over 500 signatures in one day! This is a lot more support than I ever could have hoped for. A couple people have brought up good points: namely, that the online petition may not do any good because there are a lot of out-of-state signers, and there is a new course going in west of town so, why are we even trying to save Edora Park.
Well, first of all we have a paper petition that we are collecting real signatures on around town. I will be meeting with both the head of the Parks Planning Dept. and the City Manager sometime in the next month. We hope to present both the physical petition and the online petition at the Fort Collins City Council meeting Tuesday, Feb. 7. If anyone is in Fort Collins and would like to attend, please do so.
Secondly, I hope I speak for most disc golfers when I say you can never have too many great 18-hole courses. But the real issue is that the new Hughes Stadium course will not be a tournament-level course until the trees start to grow in - minimum 5 years, probably more like 10. The city wants to close half of Edora now, before the Hughes course is ready. We usually hold 2 or 3 PDGA-sanctioned tournaments on Edora every year and we wouldn't be able to do that for the better part of a decade if the downsizing goes through.
So, we have to try, even if the effort turns out to be futile, which I don't think will be the case. Every signature counts. Please keep forwarding the petition! I'll try to post some pictures of the beautiful Edora Park course soon.
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No, I've spent significant time trying to dissuade people from engaging in a form of social "activism" which requires little legwork on the part of the people starting it, and even less from the people who sign it. Time and effort spent doing stuff like that leads to meaningless feel gooderism, and quite possibly dissaudes people from doing something that might actually have teeth, like say, volunteer to distribute a real petition, or write a letter, or go to a city council meeting.you've spent significant time trying to dissuade people from expressing interesting in saving a disc golf course.
the petition will help more, imo.
It will send a message to the powers that be that most of the people involved in the petition didn't want to do anything that involved them getting up from their computer. I don't exactly call that help.it won't make or break their campaign, but it won't hurt.