Chains Bailey
Birdie Member
Preface - As a TD, I love Live Scoring and the amount of work it alleviates after the completion of an event.
Yet, I still have concerns and questions...
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1.
I had a discussion / argument / dialogue with some other VA TDs at my last event.
The question I was asked is if paper scorecards are mandated (Required) at the event. My answer was yes.
This led to questions of how I would enforce that mandate. My answer was that if the players came in with no score at all, they would get par +4 for every hole. Therefore they better take a paper scorecard out with them and fill it out accordingly.
Make sense? Well, it did not to them either.
So, I will supply my reasoning and open it up for responses of what I am missing or not understanding - if that is the case.
- As far as I know, the PDGA has not yet required Live Scoring at events. (I do not believe they can or should ever require Live Scoring)
- At my events (All events really) Live Scoring is optional.
- I will forever provide/use a paper scorecard at my events.
- The paper scorecard serves three purposes: 1. To keep score for those who choose not to / are not capable of using Live Scoring. 2. As a backup in the event Live Scoring fails to work (Whether user error or some glitch in the Matrix' happens). 3. The PDGAs new rule of having two sources of scorekeeping is satisfied. (105.G)
Considering the above - If a group does not take the paper scorecard and the 1 in a zillion chance of Live Scoring failing happens and they can not recall their scores, the result is par +4 on every hole. (This way they can at least have a score and play he next round)
The above is some insight on why I mandate/require paper scorecards.
Fair? Make sense?
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2.
Next question:
As a TD, which is the Official Score method (Source) that you use - Live Scoring or paper scorecard?
I would prefer using the paper scorecard for this since Live Scoring is not required and all players do not use that method.
In practice I use BOTH - Live Scoring is used unless the group opted not to use it, then the paper scorecard becomes the Official Score.
I am hesitant to use the paper scorecard as the Official Score method (Source), because there are groups that choose not to even take the paper scorecard since Live Scoring is available.
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3.
In your opinion, should I be more consistent and to a degree strict about announcing/requiring/using the paper scorecard as the Official Scoring method (Source)?
It would simply only take a glance to make sure the optional and unofficial Live Scoring matches the paper scorecards. Doing that 18 times per round should not be too tall of a task.
*(I think I have answered this question while typing all of this out - it has become clear to me that I do need to just make a decision and be consistent with it from here on out = paper scorecards will be the Official Scoring method (Source))
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4.
So, somewhat, back to the original quandary.
I want to require the paper scorecards AND make them the Official Scoring method (Source). But what penalty, along PDGA guidelines, could I enforce upon a group that decides not to use the paper scorecard?
Hopefully this post makes some sense - I am terrible at being succinct and overthink the information I am trying to present.
Seems I have answered my own questions, excluding #4.
Either way - appreciate insight and opinions.
Yet, I still have concerns and questions...
___________________________________________________
1.
I had a discussion / argument / dialogue with some other VA TDs at my last event.
The question I was asked is if paper scorecards are mandated (Required) at the event. My answer was yes.
This led to questions of how I would enforce that mandate. My answer was that if the players came in with no score at all, they would get par +4 for every hole. Therefore they better take a paper scorecard out with them and fill it out accordingly.
Make sense? Well, it did not to them either.
So, I will supply my reasoning and open it up for responses of what I am missing or not understanding - if that is the case.
- As far as I know, the PDGA has not yet required Live Scoring at events. (I do not believe they can or should ever require Live Scoring)
- At my events (All events really) Live Scoring is optional.
- I will forever provide/use a paper scorecard at my events.
- The paper scorecard serves three purposes: 1. To keep score for those who choose not to / are not capable of using Live Scoring. 2. As a backup in the event Live Scoring fails to work (Whether user error or some glitch in the Matrix' happens). 3. The PDGAs new rule of having two sources of scorekeeping is satisfied. (105.G)
Considering the above - If a group does not take the paper scorecard and the 1 in a zillion chance of Live Scoring failing happens and they can not recall their scores, the result is par +4 on every hole. (This way they can at least have a score and play he next round)
The above is some insight on why I mandate/require paper scorecards.
Fair? Make sense?
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2.
Next question:
As a TD, which is the Official Score method (Source) that you use - Live Scoring or paper scorecard?
I would prefer using the paper scorecard for this since Live Scoring is not required and all players do not use that method.
In practice I use BOTH - Live Scoring is used unless the group opted not to use it, then the paper scorecard becomes the Official Score.
I am hesitant to use the paper scorecard as the Official Score method (Source), because there are groups that choose not to even take the paper scorecard since Live Scoring is available.
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3.
In your opinion, should I be more consistent and to a degree strict about announcing/requiring/using the paper scorecard as the Official Scoring method (Source)?
It would simply only take a glance to make sure the optional and unofficial Live Scoring matches the paper scorecards. Doing that 18 times per round should not be too tall of a task.
*(I think I have answered this question while typing all of this out - it has become clear to me that I do need to just make a decision and be consistent with it from here on out = paper scorecards will be the Official Scoring method (Source))
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4.
So, somewhat, back to the original quandary.
I want to require the paper scorecards AND make them the Official Scoring method (Source). But what penalty, along PDGA guidelines, could I enforce upon a group that decides not to use the paper scorecard?
Hopefully this post makes some sense - I am terrible at being succinct and overthink the information I am trying to present.
Seems I have answered my own questions, excluding #4.
Either way - appreciate insight and opinions.
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