Well, Optidisc finally brought out the right answer IMO, which is a Kite. My old standby was Stingray but a kite has the same right curve and less fade. I use the Kite for short anny shots and a Rodruner for long ones. I dont beleive in "counting" on beating a disc into right where you want it. It just seems so..."uncivilized" :O
Problem with using an anny angle on the release is if you give the disc enough time, it will fade; not enough time and it will roll.
Still, what might be safer is to learn forehand, then you can just use your most overstable disc.