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Want to improve, please advise

acrosley

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I seem to have hit a wall around 300 feet and need some pointers. Just off top of my head I know I'm rounding and throwing nose-up but I'm not sure where or what to fix first. Apologies for poor videos here, I tried my best with the old iphone-on-the-bag setup and just couldn't get a good video in portrait mode.

Anyway here's my best attempt with a DX Roc from the side
https://youtu.be/QnCn_kjTD6E

And here's another one from behind (teehee :p)
https://youtu.be/p4Foczliz1g
 
Hey Boilermaker! (class 2000 here). I am about 300 feet myself so I am no expert. Yes definitely rounding, I also see the disc going through a lot of movements from setup to release. Try this drill, it might or might not add distance but it will make you more consistent. You leave the disc in one spot and move around it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTkABag9I-4

For nose up try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeGUKZ8tQT4

for me "pouring the coffee" really made the difference.

And have fun!
Ray
 
I like the rear arm, but everything else not so much. Going to be a very different maybe weird feeling.

You are throwing your upper body back and forth over top your lower body. Watch how your rear leg goes around your front leg without ever countering behind like throwing something heavy.

https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139973




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I like the rear arm, but everything else not so much. Going to be a very different maybe weird feeling.

You are throwing your upper body back and forth over top your lower body. Watch how your rear leg goes around your front leg without ever countering behind like throwing something heavy.

https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139973

Appreciate the feedback. I have that thread bookmarked and plan to revisit it as well as the other videos when I get home tonight.

Any other sports/movement history you've had?

I did peewee baseball, football, and basketball then ran track and played soccer in high school. Idk if beer pong in college counts or not. I've honestly never been exceptionally at anything athletic but I usually manage not to embarrass myself
 
I did peewee baseball, football, and basketball then ran track and played soccer in high school. Idk if beer pong in college counts or not. I've honestly never been exceptionally at anything athletic but I usually manage not to embarrass myself

Nice - I'll count beer pong as a throwing sport!
 
My first advice is pay close attention to everything SW22 teaches you. If you look at my form thread, I'm in deep and throwing better and safer than ever.

You are throwing your upper body back and forth over top your lower body. Watch how your rear leg goes around your front leg without ever countering behind like throwing something heavy.

Acrosley, based on how you're moving overall, I'm suggesting two drills to get your body more control over your upper/lower body balance, dynamics, and counterbalancing overall. I had to try a few drills like this from SW22 and my PT to get more control and balance.

See here for (1) classic "skaters", emphasizing weight shift and rear leg counterbalance and (2) a weighted skater drill getting you used to a slinging motion with rear leg counterbalance.
https://vimeo.com/680563939

Make sure you don't do anything fancier than I'm showing when you do drill (2). Just keep yourself squared up, throwing shoulder closed to the "target", and practice staying balanced throughout the motion. I am using a slight drop in my bodyweight into my plant leg to swing the dumbell from behind me, not my arm. Keep that arm loose ("dingle arm"). Swing something noticeably heavier than a disc but no more than 5 lbs.
 
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Thanks for the video! It's really helpful what drills will help me to work on my balance and weight shift
 
So I've been focusing a lot on my weight shift / keeping my upper body between my legs before I try to fix rounding and nose angle. Been doing the figure 8 standstill and the skater/dingle arm drill from brychantus for 20-30 minutes a night and this is first time I've been able to get out and actually throw. I'm trying to really trace the figure 8 with my hips and then my arm but still haven't quite got the hang of it.

4 side shots here - its frustrating because I seem to keeping my upper body aligned when I'm just doing the motions but as soon as I throw my heads way over my front toes.
https://youtu.be/wo8ObzJd5_U

4 more side shots here - I was trying a 1 step here and seems to be about the same issue. Still leaning too far forward but I think I'm doing a better job with my trailing leg at least it's not just spinning around me all whilly-nilly on every shot
https://youtu.be/aBebwGiT8O8

4 rear view shots here - seem to be hugging myself a little too much. I think I'm trying too hard to get forward momentum and I need to keep at the figure 8 standstill thing.
https://youtu.be/ZWXQg4wC9cc
 
Thanks again for the drills and tips! I'll work on creating some empty cans tonight for the one drill but will probably wait until tomorrow for the double dragon thing for safety reasons
 
Been a busy month with lousy weather so this is one of the few times I've had a chance to do a little form work. I think I'm still leaning a little too far forward over my toes so I'll keep working on the already posted drills. I'm looking forward way too early as well, which is possibly related. I've been trying to step more forward into my throws rather than just up and down but obviously haven't made a lot of headway there yet. The first throw here must have caught a crazy gust of wind or something because it oscillated about 20 feet vertically and then carried around 40 feet further than all my other throws today which is why I look perplexed.

https://youtu.be/pR9o0FcUoMA
 
Hi,

I used to throw with a technique similar to yours and wanted to share a few things I found helpful. My understanding of this is still limited so please take this as a personal experience of development in progress.

First, what I see in your throw (a little bit exaggerated for clarity) is that the weight shift and arm swing occurs almost simultaneously and becomes a full body rotational movement from the peak of the backswing. You could try to find a more effective timing where the weight shift is initiated before the rotation and arm swing. This will feel like lag is created and makes the disc feel heavy.

To do this, I think it is necessary to first turn back a bit more with hips, head and shoulders. I found it useful to do the backswing exactly as if I was tossing a horseshoe underhanded, committing towards a pole in the opposite direction of the throw. Commit to this toss! Make sure to turn your hips, shoulders and head all the way, weight on left foot (RHBH), only toes on the ground with right foot. From there, start pulling the disc out of the backswing using your body weight, as if the disc was the handle of a heavy cart or a playground carousel. Done correctly this will get you into the position of the "door frame drill" or "loading the bow and arrow" drill. You do not seem to ever get into this position with your current technique.

Now the weight shift should pull the disc back into your center while your elbow bends (power pocket) and your weight is on your plant heel, letting you rotate on it. Sling the disc out using the elbow as a hinge and the axis from rear shoulder out to the elbow as a lever. Like a sling staff.

Most of this might happen more or less automatically if you throw something heavy, so that could be useful to experiment with.

Best of luck!
 
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