-
Discover new ways to elevate your game with the updated DGCourseReview app!
It's entirely free and enhanced with features shaped by user feedback to ensure your best experience on the course. (App Store or Google Play)
[Westside] Westside Warship
- Thread starter jaw4
- Start date
- Joined
- Oct 15, 2012
- Messages
- 4,004
Hah good point Moose - actually registered for on the other day for $35, so I feel like i got a bargain given ff33's post.
Got myself a TP Warship based on the recommendations I got when looking for a more stable Fuse.
I can see how that makes sense and it is certainly more overstable than the Fuse. The rim even looks a bit similar, but the hand feel is just completely different. I don't even know anything I'd compare this to.
Anyway, went to the field and the Warship performed as advertised. It didn't have much of turn if any on 300-320' shots with even some fade at the end. The line itself is pretty neat, but I'll have to see if I can live with how it feels in the hand.
Also, the distance hype seems real as I got a mid past 100m (333') for the first time. It's gonna be funky figuring out how this slots into the bag, where a straight to fade mid would range well past 300, but when I want to flip something up I cap at 300'.
I can see how that makes sense and it is certainly more overstable than the Fuse. The rim even looks a bit similar, but the hand feel is just completely different. I don't even know anything I'd compare this to.
Anyway, went to the field and the Warship performed as advertised. It didn't have much of turn if any on 300-320' shots with even some fade at the end. The line itself is pretty neat, but I'll have to see if I can live with how it feels in the hand.
Also, the distance hype seems real as I got a mid past 100m (333') for the first time. It's gonna be funky figuring out how this slots into the bag, where a straight to fade mid would range well past 300, but when I want to flip something up I cap at 300'.
So the Warship did make the bag and has been performing really nicely. Unfortunately over the couple of weeks of throwing, it has developed quite a bit of turn and I was wondering what would be the more OS variant of the Warship?
I saw some Tournament-X ones out there, but are they reliably more OS?
I saw some Tournament-X ones out there, but are they reliably more OS?
RahvinKing526
Par Member
- Joined
- Mar 12, 2022
- Messages
- 134
I've got a VIP-X Warship and, like every X-plastic disc (tournament-x or vip-x) that I've thrown, it's been noticeably more OS than a non-X and takes much longer to wear in.
Serious-OLD
Par Member
Fluid Truth is the closest Ive thrown to an Elasto Warship.
Elasto is a flexible premium plastic. Very durable. Great for mids IMO.
Old fluid / elasto / frost tended to be a bit more stable than VIP / Opto.
New stuff seems to be more like K1 Soft. Stability does not seem reliably more stable. Most of my new run stuff seems to be slightly less stable than normal runs if anything (Only tried Verdicts and Rivers in new plastic.)
I dont think I've tried VIP Ice Orbit, but neither Orbit nor VIP Ice have been significantly more stable in my limited experience.
TL;DR
If you like Warships I would at least try out the Elasto one.
Elasto is a flexible premium plastic. Very durable. Great for mids IMO.
Old fluid / elasto / frost tended to be a bit more stable than VIP / Opto.
New stuff seems to be more like K1 Soft. Stability does not seem reliably more stable. Most of my new run stuff seems to be slightly less stable than normal runs if anything (Only tried Verdicts and Rivers in new plastic.)
I dont think I've tried VIP Ice Orbit, but neither Orbit nor VIP Ice have been significantly more stable in my limited experience.
TL;DR
If you like Warships I would at least try out the Elasto one.
I don't know, I used to throw a Fluid Truth when they first came out and it was stable for like a week. Since then it was the most understable Truth I had.
I went and got myself a Tournament-X Warship and that is clearly more OS than the normal Tournament one. I still wouldn't call it an overstable mid, but it is definitely stable and doesn't turn one bit at 330' drives.
I went and got myself a Tournament-X Warship and that is clearly more OS than the normal Tournament one. I still wouldn't call it an overstable mid, but it is definitely stable and doesn't turn one bit at 330' drives.
Serious-OLD
Par Member
Was it a Moonshine Fluid Truth by any chance?
I expected those to be nice and stable since Moonshine had a reputation for being more stable/overstable than other plastics, and that had been my experience with Fluid.
But for w/e reason Fluid Moonshine was very understable for every mold I tried. That was disappointing until I picked up a frost moonshine Halo. That was my longest disc for years until I lost it.
Anyway, I'm about to start telling people to go back to PLH to figure out stability. Bring a baseline disc, get your hands on 'em, put them on the Pro-Shop's counter together and see what's what.
Probably most people shop online, so when I have time I'll design the laser PLH scanner I have in mind so that MSt, OTB, Infinite, etc can tell buyers whether the PLH is higher or lower than average for a mold. Maybe manufacturers would be interested in tracking and stickering them at the factory with 'relative stability'?
I expected those to be nice and stable since Moonshine had a reputation for being more stable/overstable than other plastics, and that had been my experience with Fluid.
But for w/e reason Fluid Moonshine was very understable for every mold I tried. That was disappointing until I picked up a frost moonshine Halo. That was my longest disc for years until I lost it.
Anyway, I'm about to start telling people to go back to PLH to figure out stability. Bring a baseline disc, get your hands on 'em, put them on the Pro-Shop's counter together and see what's what.
Probably most people shop online, so when I have time I'll design the laser PLH scanner I have in mind so that MSt, OTB, Infinite, etc can tell buyers whether the PLH is higher or lower than average for a mold. Maybe manufacturers would be interested in tracking and stickering them at the factory with 'relative stability'?
Nope, just a regular orange Fluid Turth. I remember a lot of people back then reporting how Fluid / Elasto discs "gave up" very abruptly and rather fast. That was my experience with the Truth and after that I never got another mold in those plastics.
For me, the standard premium Trilogy plastics have always been pretty similar and it has been mostly about the shape of that particular disc. The only somewhat reliable exceptions have been the stiff "X-plastics" e.g. VIP-X and the Grand/Supreme Orbit discs which have usually been more OS than the standard versions. Funnily enough, the Opto Orbit discs have been closer to normal Optos.
This comes from ~10 years of experience of throwing only Trilogy plastic and probably more than 200 individual discs.
Serious-OLD
Par Member
Cannot confirm the fast break-in.
I have first run Claymores and Truths that were my workhorse drivers off the tee in PNW woods doing work from 250-400 and they show less wear than premium I've had in my bag for 6 months.
I collected up all the frost, elasto and fluid I could back in the day and it has all held up better than pretty much any other plastic Ive ever thrown.
I have first run Claymores and Truths that were my workhorse drivers off the tee in PNW woods doing work from 250-400 and they show less wear than premium I've had in my bag for 6 months.
I collected up all the frost, elasto and fluid I could back in the day and it has all held up better than pretty much any other plastic Ive ever thrown.
