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Blake_T said:the vision is quite a bit longer than the XL. vision is closer to valk speed/glide.
marmoset said:I forgot to add that the flat FLX XLs are mad overstable and have no glide. Like Banshee overstable.
Easily the most overstable XL you can find.
discspeed said:It depends on how you define complimentary. Do you want something as different as possible, yet still covering the same range? I would say that is complimentary in a very wide sense for a very minimalistic bag. I usually see complimentary as something that flies with similar speed/glide/other flight characteristics, but with a different stability or flight line.
For the first definition I think the XL would work well as it's about as opposite as you can get to the Avenger in most ways. For the second definition I would recommend the Avenger-SS.,
sunspot said:discspeed said:It depends on how you define complimentary. Do you want something as different as possible, yet still covering the same range? I would say that is complimentary in a very wide sense for a very minimalistic bag. I usually see complimentary as something that flies with similar speed/glide/other flight characteristics, but with a different stability or flight line.
For the first definition I think the XL would work well as it's about as opposite as you can get to the Avenger in most ways. For the second definition I would recommend the Avenger-SS.,
From those definitions I would be under the first one. I'm wanting something slower that can cover shorter ranges that will require more finesse for low ceiling, tighter shots.
I know the XL is faster than the Cyclone with the Cyclone being a little bit more versatile.