Serious post in unserious thread: We had a meeting with 50+ people in St. Louis in the late 90's discussing weather to pull Creve Coeur or not (park was not being mowed.) So everyone is yelling and talking over each other, nothing is getting done. I got everyone's attention, said this is pointless and asked people to raise their hands if they had ever belonged to another club or been involved with something where they attended meetings before. There was seven of us out of the 50ish people where were there. Since that angle wasn't going to work, I asked who had been on a sports team before. There were exactly three of us. Those guys were not joiners. They were not jocks. Their experience of finding disc golf was much, much different from mine. For most of them, disc golf was the ONLY sport they had played with any seriousness in their lives. If they were not playing disc golf, the only "sport" most of them would have participated in was throwing darts at the bar. We were not a hotbed of athletic ability by any stretch of the imagination. The athleticism of the guys I play with now is A LOT higher than those guys. Just one small sample, but that has been my experience.
BTW, the only reason Creve Coeur survived that meeting was becasue we couldn't get people to stop yelling over each other long enough to take a vote and 1/3 of the people stormed out in protest when we tried. I was by far the worst, most pointless meeting I ever attended.