innova
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Why don't more women play disc golf?
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innova
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If some of you would get rid of those beer bellies and quit burping and farting on the course so much dg might have a chance. By all means wear clothes. Shirtless hairy backs are enough to drive anyone away.
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innova
Eagle Member
Touche. I actually agree with you.
The locker room atmosphere never bothered me but I don't really participate all that much. It is everywhere and that is beyond my control.
Smack talk is just an indicator of that same tendancy, imho.
Not a big smack talker either... let the game do the talkin' kinda guy am I.
"Disc golf offers year-round fitness, even in rain or snow."
My wife will STAND the WHOLE game during an LSU football game - in our living room. She does observe at a game that the offside defensive rotation is killing my college basketball team. She will ask if there is a minor league baseball game we can go see on vacation, so she can watch the young guys busting their butts to make the Show. She will say that she is not going to stay past the 14th inning of an extra inning college baseball game. She will drag my rear out to walk 1.2 mi in under 17:30 most evenings. But, no, you ain't gonna see her on a DG course in rain or snow. That's not a selling point for her.
My wife will STAND the WHOLE game during an LSU football game - in our living room. She does observe at a game that the offside defensive rotation is killing my college basketball team. She will ask if there is a minor league baseball game we can go see on vacation, so she can watch the young guys busting their butts to make the Show. She will say that she is not going to stay past the 14th inning of an extra inning college baseball game. She will drag my rear out to walk 1.2 mi in under 17:30 most evenings. But, no, you ain't gonna see her on a DG course in rain or snow. That's not a selling point for her.
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I'm very proud of my girl and her discin' abilities and probably brag on her a bit too much.
She is a living argument for women to play competitively. She claims to have never been very good at any sports but in under 3 years of playing she has a 857 rating and just shot her best rated round, 930. Her advanced TX women's championship win was a blowout. She could start playing pro women's (we may go to am worlds) and would be very competitive in that field. She regularly wins am in local minis, taking money off the guys.
The women's field is so small that any woman with the right competitive drive and time to practice could compete on the highest levels. Right now the pro field has the standouts; Des, Val & Burl with Liz rapidly improving. The field behind them is at an obtainable skill level (they are still great and could whoop me). It isn't like the pro men field that is saturated (in Texas and many other areas) with outstanding golfers that never screw up.
She is a living argument for women to play competitively. She claims to have never been very good at any sports but in under 3 years of playing she has a 857 rating and just shot her best rated round, 930. Her advanced TX women's championship win was a blowout. She could start playing pro women's (we may go to am worlds) and would be very competitive in that field. She regularly wins am in local minis, taking money off the guys.
The women's field is so small that any woman with the right competitive drive and time to practice could compete on the highest levels. Right now the pro field has the standouts; Des, Val & Burl with Liz rapidly improving. The field behind them is at an obtainable skill level (they are still great and could whoop me). It isn't like the pro men field that is saturated (in Texas and many other areas) with outstanding golfers that never screw up.
Hey man, if I can't fart and burp outside where am I gonna go? Besides, do you know hard it is to DG clothed while on PCP?
On a side note, I'm kinda surprised Innova doesn't have a female oriented disc line, maybe some bedazzled discs or crap like that. Oh and you don't have to be hung like a light switch to enjoy sexist jokes, just a sense of humor.
I'd agree with this as a key point.
We started together as well......I found I had a much better short game than him and we were pretty equal on the drives. Now he outdrives me by a bunch, but that just gives me incentive to keep playing and practicing, with or without him!
I'd also agree with the "no coaching" thing. When he tells me he "wouldn't throw that disc", I just wanna (and usually do) say STFU and leave me alone!!!
We have several other couples we play with which really makes it fun and we use "girls" rules (shorter tees if available, and hitting the basket anywhere counts as an in) to keep it fun rather than frustrating. We even introduced my Mom and her friend (aged 64) to the game this weekend and they're hooked, too! There's a few other girls that play at Kenwood and one has a hella-arm - I'm soooo jealous.
I gotta watch that caddy crap...I do it too much...
If she wants to throw a valk in the woods then who am I to say otherwise??
If she wants to throw a valk in the woods then who am I to say otherwise??
Way to reconsider
ps...I now LOVE my Valk in the woods, but it took me a while to be able to turn her over for S shots.
Hopefully we'll start seeing more inclusion of the opposite sex. There is the La Vie en Rose tournament. I'm not sure what the turnout is for that.
I know that I'll bring both of my kids to the course when they get older.
I know that I'll bring both of my kids to the course when they get older.
I've had trouble getting my wife to play as she doesn't think she can do it. She came along to help caddy for me at a tournament this weekend where I was on the same card as a female player playing rec. I didn't think much about the fact that she was a she ... I've long known that any sport I play there are plenty females out there that can beat or hang with me. But my wife seemed to really enjoy watching her play as she threw very well and I think it may have opened her up to giving it a shot.
If you will let her play with you alone a few times on an open course when the course is not crowded, she'll be able to gradually elevate her confidence level. I have no advice for you when she starts winning some holes from you. Mine does that some now, and it feels strange - but good strange. Mine went from a wide open course with one tree and outfield fence OB's to Waco Cameron (not the Beast), Bandera, and Austin Zilker South. That's moving up in challenge level for her. I'll send you my wife's email, if your wife would want to ask anything about starting and the fun level.
zensuit
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At least around here, an awful lot of the guys (not all, but many) have absolutely no skills when it comes to dealing with the opposite sex. Some of the crap I've heard would keep me off the course if I was of the fairer sex.
Example:
"Dude, you should finish your throw like you are slapping a b*tch!"
"Yeah, that's how I do my ladies!"
And if you saw the two "studs" having this conversation you'd know that both of them thought they were dating Laura Croft, Tomb Raider.
Now, the pudgy balding guys here keep their damn shirts on!
Z
Example:
"Dude, you should finish your throw like you are slapping a b*tch!"
"Yeah, that's how I do my ladies!"
And if you saw the two "studs" having this conversation you'd know that both of them thought they were dating Laura Croft, Tomb Raider.
Now, the pudgy balding guys here keep their damn shirts on!
Z
That's a good point. I do recall one of the locals thrusting his pelvis into the basket after making a 40' foot putt and yell, "I'M BANGING THE CHAINS! I'M BANGING THE CHAINS TODAY!!!"
I don't know where you play, but where I play most of the guys are in pretty good shape. Much better shape than me. The guys I see all seem to have wash board stomachs, and I feel like I have a Kenmore Superload Washing Machine. I am working on it though.
thanks man
I really would like it if she got as into it as I am. She did surprise me though this weekend with how excited she was for me to just be playing in a tournament. And she tells me she thought the whole thing was a lot of fun to be at.
DiscChick
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Why don't more women play disc golf? Beats me, I love it.
Maybe it's the sexist attitude from the guys, as evident by some of the replies here. I understand the thought behind "joking" sexism, but it gets old real quick. Maybe it's the thought that all women that play disc golf are lesbians (usually extends to all women in any sport, and goes along with the sexism thing). I've read the forums about guys thinking dg is "gay" or that all discers are stoners, and seen you guys get all defensive. Generalizations suck don't they.
Tamahawk hit on a good point when he mentioned the frustration of not being able to throw very far. When I first started I was zig-zagging across the fairway, short throw after short throw. I was probably 40 over par by the end. But, I enjoyed being out in the woods (points for bayouace) and that's probably what got me to go again.
And Jeremy, I think you got it right when you mentioned the guys over-coaching driving us away. I joined up with a man and his wife a few weeks ago, as soon as she chose her disc for a hole he would start "Why do you want to go left?" and on and on. You could see she was getting frustrated and her game showed it. I wanted to punch him in the neck, and he wasn't even talking to me.
So, you want to get more women on the course. Go out one on one, don't throw her in with all your guy friends right away. Check your sexism at the first tee. Be supportive without being condescending. Give her a few pointers at the beginning and then make sure she knows you're available for questions or advice if and when she wants it. Remind her that disc golf, like ball golf is very much a game you play against yourself. Anytime I shave points off my average, I count that as a win. I still haven't thrown par on that course where I shot 40 over. But now, I've got a consistent 200' drive, and I'm averaging 7 over on that course. I feel pretty good about that.
Why don't more women play disc golf? Beats me, I love it.
Maybe it's the sexist attitude from the guys, as evident by some of the replies here. I understand the thought behind "joking" sexism, but it gets old real quick. Maybe it's the thought that all women that play disc golf are lesbians (usually extends to all women in any sport, and goes along with the sexism thing). I've read the forums about guys thinking dg is "gay" or that all discers are stoners, and seen you guys get all defensive. Generalizations suck don't they.
Tamahawk hit on a good point when he mentioned the frustration of not being able to throw very far. When I first started I was zig-zagging across the fairway, short throw after short throw. I was probably 40 over par by the end. But, I enjoyed being out in the woods (points for bayouace) and that's probably what got me to go again.
And Jeremy, I think you got it right when you mentioned the guys over-coaching driving us away. I joined up with a man and his wife a few weeks ago, as soon as she chose her disc for a hole he would start "Why do you want to go left?" and on and on. You could see she was getting frustrated and her game showed it. I wanted to punch him in the neck, and he wasn't even talking to me.
So, you want to get more women on the course. Go out one on one, don't throw her in with all your guy friends right away. Check your sexism at the first tee. Be supportive without being condescending. Give her a few pointers at the beginning and then make sure she knows you're available for questions or advice if and when she wants it. Remind her that disc golf, like ball golf is very much a game you play against yourself. Anytime I shave points off my average, I count that as a win. I still haven't thrown par on that course where I shot 40 over. But now, I've got a consistent 200' drive, and I'm averaging 7 over on that course. I feel pretty good about that.
What a great post! Even if I have to give back my points.
innova
Eagle Member
Great post. Having the perspective of a brutally honest femme is quite enlightening.
I have seen quite a few women at events over the years. Once at Worlds a Pro Woman cussed out a tourney official. At our recent event I listened to a Pro Master Woman whine incessantly about what tees they had to play.
In contrast Des Reading is a DG Saint. There is a local PRO Master Woman, Robin, who is also the constant professional.
Every coin has two sides, is all I am attempting to point out.
For every sexist idiot that makes rude and crude remarks there is a nag waiting to unleash on you. The good news both are in the minority!
Be careful what you ask for? Some guys I know like the fact that they have time away from the better half.
There is always another perspective... from the one each of us have.
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Not all women are like discchick is my guess. That is a compliment.
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