Mattallica
* Ace Member *
I would imagine so, it said the aero was more stable
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I would imagine so, it said the aero was more stable
Craton
Double Eagle Member
OR You could start a club with a "speed limit"... That way, you don't have to pay 35 bucks for a dx ram.
biscoe
* Ace Member *
correct- no similarity at all.
basketcase15
Double Eagle Member
i have a cyclone and eclipse in my bag right now, eclipse is a nasty roller
grodney
* Ace Member *
I played with frisbees from the 80s until 1993, which is when I bought my first golf discs: Viper, Shark, Panther, and 86 Softie for a putter. The "old school" players at that time were using all the discs that ThreePutt and Craig (and others) have mentioned: Hammer, XD, Scorpion, Viper, Eclipse, Hooker, Super Puppy, Barracuda, Roc, Cobra, Aviar, Stingray, etc. etc.
The Cyclone was pretty new in '93, and where I played (Iowa), it was THE DISC (well, THE DRIVER) for several years.
The Cyclone was pretty new in '93, and where I played (Iowa), it was THE DISC (well, THE DRIVER) for several years.
DGRZ001
Eagle Member
I still carry an Original Eagle in my bag. It is great for turnover shots that you want to have a nice fade glide path for. It was introduced in 1983, and retooled later that year to make it more stable. That retooled version was called the Aero. The Eagles were made in primarily three colors: pink, orange, and, I think, yellow. The cool thing was that they were also color coded. For example, orange meant that the disc weighed in the 160s (grams). All of my Eagles are orange, and weigh in the 160s.
The only way I can for sure tell an Eagle from an Aero is that the Eagle had NO lettering on the bottom of the disc.
The only way I can for sure tell an Eagle from an Aero is that the Eagle had NO lettering on the bottom of the disc.
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jenb
* Ace Member *
Does anyone know the differences between the different types of midnight flyers (e.g., model 41, #6, fastback, etc.) Are any of these discs still PDGA legal? If so, which ones?
jenb
* Ace Member *
Found this much and still looking. They seem to have the numbers 1-8 on them. What do the numbers mean?
jenb
* Ace Member *
It's amazing how much info is in the PDGA list of approved discs, including year of introduction.
http://www.pdga.com/files/documents/PDGA_approved_discs_071511.pdf
The earliest one I see listed is the Wham - O Professional, with an approval date of January 1, 1964.
http://www.pdga.com/files/documents/PDGA_approved_discs_071511.pdf
The earliest one I see listed is the Wham - O Professional, with an approval date of January 1, 1964.
jenb
* Ace Member *
I went through the PDGA list of approved discs and constructed a list of discs in order by approval date up through 1984. I did not realize that Discraft and Dynamic Discs both predate Innova. For this list, which is the earliest released disc listed that is still in production?
*threaddrift alert*
I could be wrong about this, but I think the Dynamic Discs company who made discs like the "floater" you listed, as well as the infamous, non-approved dimple, is a different company than the one currently seen of the backs of shirts of many top pros. I could be wrong, but that's the impression I'm under. Perhaps someone with better knowledge can chime in.
/end threaddrift.
I could be wrong about this, but I think the Dynamic Discs company who made discs like the "floater" you listed, as well as the infamous, non-approved dimple, is a different company than the one currently seen of the backs of shirts of many top pros. I could be wrong, but that's the impression I'm under. Perhaps someone with better knowledge can chime in.
/end threaddrift.
jenb
* Ace Member *
These discs on the PDGA list have no approval dates provided. Does anyone know when they were approved?
Disc Golf Association #1 Hi Tec (modified Stingray)
Disc Golf Association #1 Professional Driver
Disc Golf Association #2 Hi Tec (modified Stingray)
Disc Golf Association #2 Professional Driver
Disc Golf Association #3 Hi Tec (modified Stingray)
Disc Golf Association #3 Professional Driver
Disc Golf Association #4 Approach
Disc Golf Association #4 Hi Tec (modified Stingray)
Disc Golf Association #5 Hi Tec (modified Stingray)
Disc Golf Association #5 Roller-Putter
Lightning Discs #2 Driver
Lightning Discs #2 Hookshot
Lightning Discs #2 Roller
Lightning Discs #2 Slice
Lightning Discs #3 Flyer
Lightning Discs #3 Hookshot
Lightning Discs The Driver
Disc Golf Association #1 Hi Tec (modified Stingray)
Disc Golf Association #1 Professional Driver
Disc Golf Association #2 Hi Tec (modified Stingray)
Disc Golf Association #2 Professional Driver
Disc Golf Association #3 Hi Tec (modified Stingray)
Disc Golf Association #3 Professional Driver
Disc Golf Association #4 Approach
Disc Golf Association #4 Hi Tec (modified Stingray)
Disc Golf Association #5 Hi Tec (modified Stingray)
Disc Golf Association #5 Roller-Putter
Lightning Discs #2 Driver
Lightning Discs #2 Hookshot
Lightning Discs #2 Roller
Lightning Discs #2 Slice
Lightning Discs #3 Flyer
Lightning Discs #3 Hookshot
Lightning Discs The Driver
I had a dimple at one time, even tried throwing it....the skin on the tips of my fingers was ripped off. :thmbdown:
Sadjo
* Ace Member *
I still have one. I'll see if I can dig it out and post a pic.
Like Trembo and other old timers here, started w/ Whammo 165g in mid '80s. Could throw it quite a ways w/ good snap. When Started w/ actual golfing discs in '90 1st driver was a Cobra, progressed to Spitfire then Cyclone in later '90s as they came out. Had a "Discovering the World" Roc as a putter, Lightning Texan as an approach disc, and original hard plastic Pheonix as a wind disc. Picked up a B-17 also for wind or through foliage. I fondly remember a Jaguar from about '94, biggest flat disc I have ever seen, 1st one I had w/ good glide. Wife had an Eclipse and Aviar, Knew friends w/ Ace, Duce, 86, 91, and Viper was all the rage when it came out but was a serious meathook for most, the 1st I remember.
Skeeter is the closest thing I have found to a Texan and it is really close, sweet approach disc that I used the hell out of. Lots of 100' approaches w/ shorter drivers and w/o advances in form teaching. Rare to see people throwing over 300' on my home course then. The one guy who did went to the worlds in the mid '90s and did ok.
Good luck in your quest for the old school. If you ever get to Kennewick, WA you can shoot about 15 of the holes in the positions they were in when expanded to an 18 hole object course in '89 or '90. Nice baskets and tee pads now tho, throw from gravel next to them for total old school experience.
Skeeter is the closest thing I have found to a Texan and it is really close, sweet approach disc that I used the hell out of. Lots of 100' approaches w/ shorter drivers and w/o advances in form teaching. Rare to see people throwing over 300' on my home course then. The one guy who did went to the worlds in the mid '90s and did ok.
Good luck in your quest for the old school. If you ever get to Kennewick, WA you can shoot about 15 of the holes in the positions they were in when expanded to an 18 hole object course in '89 or '90. Nice baskets and tee pads now tho, throw from gravel next to them for total old school experience.
^^didn't know that the Magnet was that old, couldn't remember exactly when I bought it. I got it fairly early on as a putter to replace the Roc, which I never liked for anything. I had an Areo that I also didn't like and used as a loaner.
Forgot to mention, my best score @ River Country was 4 under in mid '90s w/ Spitfire as driver, haven't broken par w/ newer plastic(had most of decade off)
FredVegasDGC
Double Eagle Member
When I first started you bought a Cobra as a long range disc. But when the Viper came out that was the best driver. Now they are both considered as fairway mid-range discs on the Innova web site.
But I remember when the Whippet came out I was at Barnett Park in Orlando and Climo was there bombing them about 450'-500'+ in an open field.
That may not impress many today. But back then most pros I knew could throw 350'-400' and then there was Climo that could out throw everyone by 100'. He was a freak of nature that was just 10 times better than anyone else. I don't remember many holes over 400', most of the time the longest hole was 325'-375'. Now you can't go to a course without a few holes 400'+. Some courses all the holes are 300'-450' with a few 600' and 700'. I've seen 900'+ holes which are insane to me. But players are throwing longer so new courses take that in when designing.
Just the other day I played a round with bmxcrazekid and he threw a shot 450'. A 14 year old kid is throwing longer than I could ever throw. Hitting some damn good putts to boot.
Now if you cant throw 400'-500' you are second tier. Some of it may have to do with new plastics & designs. But a lot of it is that more people are playing DG now than 25 years ago. The more that play there will be more that are better at the game. They are also starting to play at much younger ages. I never saw kids playing back in the day. Now I see them playing all the time.
But I remember when the Whippet came out I was at Barnett Park in Orlando and Climo was there bombing them about 450'-500'+ in an open field.
That may not impress many today. But back then most pros I knew could throw 350'-400' and then there was Climo that could out throw everyone by 100'. He was a freak of nature that was just 10 times better than anyone else. I don't remember many holes over 400', most of the time the longest hole was 325'-375'. Now you can't go to a course without a few holes 400'+. Some courses all the holes are 300'-450' with a few 600' and 700'. I've seen 900'+ holes which are insane to me. But players are throwing longer so new courses take that in when designing.
Just the other day I played a round with bmxcrazekid and he threw a shot 450'. A 14 year old kid is throwing longer than I could ever throw. Hitting some damn good putts to boot.
Now if you cant throw 400'-500' you are second tier. Some of it may have to do with new plastics & designs. But a lot of it is that more people are playing DG now than 25 years ago. The more that play there will be more that are better at the game. They are also starting to play at much younger ages. I never saw kids playing back in the day. Now I see them playing all the time.
All of the Lightning discs listed are approved under another name. In 1995 Lightning switched from WWII airplane to #1 Driver, # 2 Driver, etc. It allowed them to sell discs in Japan, which had a big DG scene and for some reason didn't like discs with pictures of American WWII warplanes on them.
I wonder...
