This is probably dumb, but I jut rub a little dirt on there to cut down on the tackiness. Not a bunch and I clean off my fingers after I do it so I don't have the dirt on my fingertips, just a film of it on the underside of the putter.
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[Gateway] Anyone like the Warlock?
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dwalk77
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I love the Warlock, just bought a new one (SSS) today. I like the beadless feel, especially for closer putts.
My first one I received as a Christmas gift about 10 years ago. It was autographed, but I never bothered to look up the PDGA # b/c I didn't watch disc golf at the time and wouldn't know anyone. When I finally did last year I found out it was Nikko Locastro, was pretty stoked
My first one I received as a Christmas gift about 10 years ago. It was autographed, but I never bothered to look up the PDGA # b/c I didn't watch disc golf at the time and wouldn't know anyone. When I finally did last year I found out it was Nikko Locastro, was pretty stoked
Really digging the Soft and PW Warlocks for throwing. The Soft I have is a great stiff KC Pro- like blend that is only going to get better with age. It's definitely Wizard stability but carries better and has forward fade instead of a dumpy finish. The PW is straighter and more workable but has a noticeably faster feel. It was working well for longer standstill approaches.
disctildeath
Eagle Member
They finally ran the Warlock in Diamond, bet those are going to be nice driving putters.
Been getting in a bad habit of losing my throwing putters but it means I've been trying out a lot of plastic. Lost my nicely seasoned Soft into a creek and picked up a 170 g Soft. Great feeling plastic again and have had some of my longest putter throws with it. Seems like the drop in weight helps the glide and the stability is comparable to a max weight, with the exception of headwind throws. Been also experimented with some of my SS's in the throwing stack as a flippy thrower.
I threw my nine-year-old Warlock into a sewer. :\ Creve Coeur Park has an old abandoned sewer system from some long-ago development on the course, and they have a basket set right behind an opening to the sewer. From the tee you can't see it; it's a short placement so I drove with the Warlock and it went right down in the sewer. 
I could see it, but it was too deep and I couldn't reach it. I was on a time crunch and had to leave it, and I don't live in St. Louis so I posted a "Farewell Warlock" thing to facebook. A guy I played league with 24 years ago who I see maybe once ever two years in passing got some equipment and fished it out of the sewer for me. Disc golfers can be awesome.
Of course now I have to run unto him to get it back, so that might take some time. I broke out an old "it says soft but you know it's medium" Warlock from when they were not selling mediums to take it's place while it is visiting my friend.
I could see it, but it was too deep and I couldn't reach it. I was on a time crunch and had to leave it, and I don't live in St. Louis so I posted a "Farewell Warlock" thing to facebook. A guy I played league with 24 years ago who I see maybe once ever two years in passing got some equipment and fished it out of the sewer for me. Disc golfers can be awesome. Of course now I have to run unto him to get it back, so that might take some time. I broke out an old "it says soft but you know it's medium" Warlock from when they were not selling mediums to take it's place while it is visiting my friend.
Between rain and quarantine, the only disc I've thrown in three weeks is the Warlock. I forget how the other discs fly. :|
Picked up some fresh Warlocks since these days it's backyard putting and field practice.
The Super Softs feel just like my 7-8 year old beat in ones. Great grip and just the right amount of give on the flight plate for my thumb without being floppy.
The Firm is exactly what I want for a throwing plastic. Hearty feeling without being a dinner plate. Just enough give to get a secure grip. Also a nice smooth dome that will help with glide.
The Super Softs feel just like my 7-8 year old beat in ones. Great grip and just the right amount of give on the flight plate for my thumb without being floppy.
The Firm is exactly what I want for a throwing plastic. Hearty feeling without being a dinner plate. Just enough give to get a secure grip. Also a nice smooth dome that will help with glide.
Interesting find on Marshall Street. The X-Out Super Soft Warlocks all have an old stamp that does not even call out the plastic type. I had one that I bought used circa 2013 (great thrower, unfortunately lost) that was penned SOFT on the back w/ the horizontal PDGA approved tooling. I reached out to MST for some more details and knowing Gateway it may just be current stock with the old stamp.
Picture here, when pasted it was enormous.
Picture here, when pasted it was enormous.
With as many as they have, it's prolly just a case where Gateway slapped an old stamp on some X-Outs.
Why disc golfers are the best; Warlock edition.
This is my putter:
I got a voucher in 2011 for a local store that had golf discs; the selection was bad and all I could find that I might kinda sorta want to try out was this Warlock. I ended up liking it and it accidentally became my main putter. After I had it for eight years I threw it on a short hole at Creve Coeur; that park might have an interesting history because in that fairway were two small open holes that lead down to an abandoned sewer. My disc went straight in one of the holes and was gone. I don't live in St. Louis anymore, and I didn't have any equipment to get down far enough the reach the disc. I had to leave it, so I posted an RIP putter thing to Facebook.
I played league at White Birch when I lived in St. Louis so I know Bob Waidmann, he's the longtime course pro there. I moved in 2000 so at the time that I lost the disc I hadn't been around for 19 years. Bob saw my post and made a special trip over to Creve Coeur with something to pull the disc out for me. You can't ask for a better guy than that.
At the time I pretty regularly went to St. Louis so we were just going to meet up in the spring sometime. Then we had COVID and we never met up. Finally 15 months after I lost it I was going to be in St. Louis, so I got ahold of Bob and today at long last I'm the proud re-owner of a now almost 10-year-old putter.
He said it didn't look very beat up for a disc that old; I told him it is MY putter so all it ever hits is the ground. :\
This is my putter:
I got a voucher in 2011 for a local store that had golf discs; the selection was bad and all I could find that I might kinda sorta want to try out was this Warlock. I ended up liking it and it accidentally became my main putter. After I had it for eight years I threw it on a short hole at Creve Coeur; that park might have an interesting history because in that fairway were two small open holes that lead down to an abandoned sewer. My disc went straight in one of the holes and was gone. I don't live in St. Louis anymore, and I didn't have any equipment to get down far enough the reach the disc. I had to leave it, so I posted an RIP putter thing to Facebook.
I played league at White Birch when I lived in St. Louis so I know Bob Waidmann, he's the longtime course pro there. I moved in 2000 so at the time that I lost the disc I hadn't been around for 19 years. Bob saw my post and made a special trip over to Creve Coeur with something to pull the disc out for me. You can't ask for a better guy than that.
At the time I pretty regularly went to St. Louis so we were just going to meet up in the spring sometime. Then we had COVID and we never met up. Finally 15 months after I lost it I was going to be in St. Louis, so I got ahold of Bob and today at long last I'm the proud re-owner of a now almost 10-year-old putter.
He said it didn't look very beat up for a disc that old; I told him it is MY putter so all it ever hits is the ground. :\
Casey 1988
Shun the frumious Bandersnatch!
Why disc golfers are the best; Warlock edition.
This is my putter:
I got a voucher in 2011 for a local store that had golf discs; the selection was bad and all I could find that I might kinda sorta want to try out was this Warlock. I ended up liking it and it accidentally became my main putter. After I had it for eight years I threw it on a short hole at Creve Coeur; that park might have an interesting history because in that fairway were two small open holes that lead down to an abandoned sewer. My disc went straight in one of the holes and was gone. I don't live in St. Louis anymore, and I didn't have any equipment to get down far enough the reach the disc. I had to leave it, so I posted an RIP putter thing to Facebook.
I played league at White Birch when I lived in St. Louis so I know Bob Waidmann, he's the longtime course pro there. I moved in 2000 so at the time that I lost the disc I hadn't been around for 19 years. Bob saw my post and made a special trip over to Creve Coeur with something to pull the disc out for me. You can't ask for a better guy than that.
At the time I pretty regularly went to St. Louis so we were just going to meet up in the spring sometime. Then we had COVID and we never met up. Finally 15 months after I lost it I was going to be in St. Louis, so I got ahold of Bob and today at long last I'm the proud re-owner of a now almost 10-year-old putter.
He said it didn't look very beat up for a disc that old; I told him it is MY putter so all it ever hits is the ground. :\
The Stamp is still very well preserved for 10 years.
I've never had an issue with hot stamps on base plastic. I think every putter I've ever owned has an intact hot stamp.
Casey 1988
Shun the frumious Bandersnatch!
Not me, my Magnet in the old Stiff Pro D from 2005 had the ring of stamp wearing off after just a few years after I got the disc in mid 2006 and drew in with red Sharpie the ring over the years for the 6-7 I was really playing disc golf with disc in parts more since I used that ring to mark where the thumb goes on disc. The Stamp you could feel the stamp raised on the disc rather then stamped into the disc, But the inner part is still good as disc is in my beginner bag.
Drift but whatever...
The only real issue I've ever had on base plastic discs was purple Innova stamps; the purple rubs off leaving the silver base.
Ontario Roc; the stamp started out as purple.
I've had a few discs that did that, but otherwise the hot stamps are pretty solid.
The hot stamps on Champ-type plastic rub off, especially around the edges where the disc in front of it in the bag rubs against it. I don't really have an issue with any other plastic.
Casey 1988
Shun the frumious Bandersnatch!
Drift but whatever...
The only real issue I've ever had on base plastic discs was purple Innova stamps; the purple rubs off leaving the silver base.
Ontario Roc; the stamp started out as purple.
I've had a few discs that did that, but otherwise the hot stamps are pretty solid.
The hot stamps on Champ-type plastic rub off, especially around the edges where the disc in front of it in the bag rubs against it. I don't really have an issue with any other plastic.
My brother, Dad, and I the same Issue with the same kind sparkle stamps is they all end up silver no matter the plastic or the color, save for green on my brothers DX Gator still green in his beginner/I don't have a bag but everything else yeah went silver including a red stamp on a Shark I gave away to a person for part of his beginner bag along with 2 Hydra and a Dragon set I bought for him, the Wahoo that came with one set was too much and my brother traded to get it for a beginner disc he had that was better to the friend.
Thread drift back, the Warlock is slightly underrated for a putter as it always gets over looked for the big bead Wizard, a very similar mold and the Magic nearly a bead-less Wizard. They forget there is a small/mini bead (not micro) putter called the Warlock. A Warlock gets more love by people who have used or tried a Warlock and not clicked then does a people who did not click with a Titanic , basically a spacer type version of the Magnet they do use.
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One of my favorite Warlocks that was not when I first got it. Bought it used here off the Marketplace circa 2012-2013 in the midst of a thrower buying binge. Sat in the backup bin until a year ago where I started using it as my straight to flippy glidey throwing putter. Loved its extra glide and flip-to-flat flight but sadly found a bad tree kick and a deep creek.
Good fortune had it with its find and return in recent weeks and it's the perfect buttery dense broken in Soft (written on the back, clearly not stamped as such).
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Picked up a Diamond Warlock at Disc Nation this weekend. Plastic feels like Discraft Big Z, some pearl and a bit of give. Little bit slick but will keep washing it with some soap until it beats in. Flight is BEEFY! Definitely has some bite at the end and will fight out of moderate anhyzers. Been a lot of fun so far and looking forward to beating it in more.
I found white Firm's to be very KC-like. They have the same slick grippiness, whereas PW's are more powdery/ chalky. Similar stiffness.
