why use the metric system in disc golf?

[c_a_miller]

If you want my opinion, it's due to the sport having started here in the states. Baseball is worldwide also and you don't see them using yards to measure how far the wall is do you?

Nope, you see them using feet. :|

 

[Lewis]

Are metric beer bottles labeled in mL?
Why is there no metric time system?
For distance, why are decimeters so neglected? We go from meters down to cm to mm.

Wine bottles are measured in mL. So are Coca Cola bottles. Car people talk about engines in liters. Track teams run the 100 m dash. So the conversion is already starting.

Interesting factoid about decimeters: 1 liter = 1 cubic decimeter.

 

[PhattD]

I think this...
the 10 meter circle
the 2 meter rule
the 30 cm lie

sounds better than this...
the 32.81 foot circle
the 6.562 foot rule
the 11.81 inch lie

and is easier to remember/measure.

except that if we used the English system it wouldn't be:

the 32.81 foot circle
the 6.562 foot rule
the 11.81 inch lie

It would be:
the 30 foot circle
the 6 foot rule
the 12 inch lie

Which doesn't look any worse than metric.

 

[Fishy]

No, that is 122 degrees F. I lived in west Texas for two years and it never got above 110.

My thoughts on changing distances to meters is that meters is not precise enough and we would have to round off to decimal points to get a better idea of how really long the hole is. 100 meters is ~328.084 feet but if you were to convert 329, 330, and 331 feet into meters you would still get a number more than 100 but less then 101.

I've only met one total douche nozzle that was adamant about the difference between 182' and 183' from the hole. 100 M = 328-330 101M=331-333 don't be THAT guy who thinks that he's the next Ken Climo. You're not, nor will you ever be able to accurately throw within a foot at that distance. If you could you would be on tour or in a circus as a sideshow freak. I doubt KC or Nate or anyone pulls out the laser range finder on a hole, ever. Unless they are laying out a course.

 

[Dave242]

Metric is Canadian

 

[Steve West]

...I doubt KC or Nate or anyone pulls out the laser range finder on a hole, ever. Unless they are laying out a course.

If they did, they see the readout is in meters or yards, not feet.

 

[Kp0c]

No, that is 122 degrees F. I lived in west Texas for two years and it never got above 110.

My thoughts on changing distances to meters is that meters is not precise enough and we would have to round off to decimal points to get a better idea of how really long the hole is. 100 meters is ~328.084 feet but if you were to convert 329, 330, and 331 feet into meters you would still get a number more than 100 but less then 101.

I disagree. For sake of simplicity, let's say you get a meter roughly ever 3 feet. Say you are facing four different throws. One that is 300 feet long, one that is 301 feet long, one that is 302 feet long, and one that is 303 feet long. Can you honestly say that you won't try to throw the exact same strenght on all four of these shot?

Once we get closer to the basket, the distance becomes irrelevant as our brain somehow tell our muscles how far we need to throw, which is amazing too.

My point is that we wouldn't loose any «real life» precision using the meter system.

 

[c_a_miller]

I disagree. For sake of simplicity, let's say you get a meter roughly ever 3 feet. Say you are facing four different throws. One that is 300 feet long, one that is 301 feet long, one that is 302 feet long, and one that is 303 feet long. Can you honestly say that you won't try to throw the exact same strenght on all four of these shot?

Once we get closer to the basket, the distance becomes irrelevant as our brain somehow tell our muscles how far we need to throw, which is amazing too.

My point is that we wouldn't loose any «real life» precision using the meter system.

I've only met one total douche nozzle that was adamant about the difference between 182' and 183' from the hole. 100 M = 328-330 101M=331-333 don't be THAT guy who thinks that he's the next Ken Climo. You're not, nor will you ever be able to accurately throw within a foot at that distance. If you could you would be on tour or in a circus as a sideshow freak. I doubt KC or Nate or anyone pulls out the laser range finder on a hole, ever. Unless they are laying out a course.

You could not be more right. I guess my original point was also in response to some guy making the point that we use grams instead of ounces because grams are more precise, and TECHNICALLY feet is more precise then meters. However, the difference between feet to meters (3.5ft~1m) is much of a lesser difference then grams to ounces (28.34g~1oz).

Believe me when I say when I go throw, depending on the hole I usually group holes that are within a 30' range to help determine what disc I will use.

 

[dehaas]

Royale with cheese

 

[Innova63]

2nd response of the thread and best one yet.

One day the U.S. will come around and start using metric in schools and phase out the archaic English system. Once they do, we'll all have to convert. They should have adopted the metric system many decades ago.

Back when I was in grade school....(early 70's) we all learned the the conversions because America was going to join the rest of the world in one system........

Guess that didn't happen.....40 years later.....and what next?

 

[Halcón]

Back when I was in grade school....(early 70's) we all learned the the conversions because America was going to join the rest of the world in one system........

Guess that didn't happen.....40 years later.....and what next?

Guess they must have hit some major roadblocks in sticking to the system. It's a darn shame too, because by now, we'd have been fully integrated to metric.

 

[c_a_miller]

Guess they must have hit some major roadblocks in sticking to the system. It's a darn shame too, because by now, we'd have been fully integrated to metric.

It isn't the school systems that do not teach it, it is trying to integrate it into American society. I graduated high school in May 2011 and in all science and math classes I took we used metric. We use the customary system so often in our daily lives: our speed limits are in miles per hour, we go to the doctor and get measured in feet not meters and pounds not kilograms, in all sports in America we use feet/yards,

It would take someone in a high place to change everything to metric. It is not the schools that are messing up, no one is at fault. We are so used to customary that we are going to continue to use it until someone forces the change on us and will fork our the cash to change all the road signs and speed limit signs in America from customary -> metric.

 

[ohtobediscing]

....i do know that the metric system is the international method. so if you want anything (or at least most things) to work overseas it needs to be metric. and of course we would like disc golf to be international.

..... i am still baffled as to why we english folk had to make something different in the first place.

I almost don't know where to begin on this.
Look, the Axis powers bombed all the bearing factories in Europe in WWII, so the only bearings available were American-made SAE-sized stuff. It would bankrupt the WORLD to try to convert all manufacturing to metric bearings. So, NO, everything doesn't spin on metric in the rest of the world. Quite the opposite, in fact.
The English had to make something different because they were royalty, and certainly weren't going to use the measurements of commoners and heathens. Cubits? Sheafs? Good Lord, man, you're supposed to trade in opium, not smoke it!
As for internationality, are you concerned that Mozambique doesn't have a course?
I rest my case.

 

[ohtobediscing]

It isn't the school systems that do not teach it, it is trying to integrate it into American society.

It would take someone in a high place to change everything to metric.

Why do you think it happened the first time? Jimmy Carter, US President 1976-1980. Who's higher than that? Ryan Seacrest?!?

 

[GordEzo]

Y'all are sure funny !

I had to read from the beginning to find out only 1 Canadian said something !

Doesn't really matter to me , but working in a tourist industry I always have to bite my tongue when asked ;
" But whats the temperature ? I don't know what 21* celcius is ? What is it in Fahrenheit ? ". " Well sir , what does it feel like if you were back home ! "
I have learned to tell people distance by using " it's about 3 blocks down that green run to the ski lift you are looking for !

I've only played for 2 years and I'll just pace something out , guess that my pace is 1 meter or 3 feet as i did today in the backyard of the new house we are moving into ! I have 30 paces across the back yard and about 55 paces front to back to putt . The garage is only about 9 paces corner to corner . Don't really care what it actually is , 'IT'S JUST A NUMBER ! ' Hopefully I'll be hit those putts over the winter , and walk the 1 block to the fields to throw as far as I can !

Whats wrong with water freezing at 0 and boiling at 100 degrees ?
I sure know that I LOVE skiing when there's at least 30 cms. or more of snow !:clap:

 

[CyclistOK]

It isn't the school systems that do not teach it, it is trying to integrate it into American society. I graduated high school in May 2011 and in all science and math classes I took we used metric. We use the customary system so often in our daily lives: our speed limits are in miles per hour, we go to the doctor and get measured in feet not meters and pounds not kilograms, in all sports in America we use feet/yards,

It would take someone in a high place to change everything to metric. It is not the schools that are messing up, no one is at fault. We are so used to customary that we are going to continue to use it until someone forces the change on us and will fork our the cash to change all the road signs and speed limit signs in America from customary -> metric.

When you go the the doctor we actually do measure in M, KG, and C, and most of the cutoffs, dosing and guidelines are based in metric units (lol at dosing in lbs, oz or quarts). Most people would have no idea what I was talking about if I told them their temp was 37.5, Ht 1.9 and wt 72.

Forcing a change would be an absolute disaster. Can you imagine the day the speed limit signs change from 60mph to 100kph? An enormous number of drivers are illiterate or simply don't pay attention to the happenings around them and would think "cool i can go 100mph!". Not to mention the mass confusion.

Also I don't really understand the reason behind switching. The people who are smart enough, care enough, or simple need to will learn both regardless, and the rest can go about their way with standard units.

 

[grodney]

Royale with cheese

Check out the big brain on dehaas!!!!!

 

[Jay Dub]

Now we know it was warmer than -15*C (4*F) when Aqualung was eyeing little girls with bad intent.

Locomotivebreath! :thmbup:


(Thumbs up for the musicians, not the idea of little girls)

 

[Smigles]

Why NOT use the metric system for ANYTHING ?

Metric makes sence, the rest is left over from some historic measuring ideas ( like when you had nothing better to measure a distance than your feet... ).

 

[scarpfish]

Why NOT use the metric system for ANYTHING ?

Why do the British and Austrailians (who have converted to metric) still drive on the left side of the road?

The fact is, full metric implementation in the U.S. is never going to happen. The biggest obstacles to that being things that have been woven into the American landscape that would be cost prohibitive to change. Not only are millions of American road signs stated in miles, but in a large part of the country the road system is based on a grid marked off in miles. The Detroit metro area actually names some of their east-west main roads things like "Eight Mile Road", "Eleven Mile Road", etc.

But things like consumer products already have dual English/metric implementation on them. The can of soda pop I'm drinking says 12 Fl OZ (355 ml) on it, but a 2 liter bottle of the same product would be marked 2 L (2.1 qt) on it. Nutritional labels on food give serving sizes in both english and metric, and then state how many units of whatever nutrient or crap you're consuming only in metric (as the scientific community went metric a long time ago).

These sort of things are much easier to change, because there a good market driven reason for doing so. The rest is changing for sake of change. So I'd still prefer my disc golf holes measured in feet.