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Nikko Calls Foot Fault on Gurthie ... "Don't you shake his hand, bro.."

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Reginald said:
Haha, Nikko catching hell for calling a foot fault...correctly? All of them could probably could have been called for one. If you don't want to be called for a foot fault, just make very sure you don't do it.
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This is why I believe the circle needs to expand to the 50-60' range. People are constantly foot faulting with jump putts and step over putts, and here is the paradox, you let them cheat and never call it, or you call it, and you are seen as the jerk.

I see Nikko was the only adult in that group. The others were immature, childish, and an embarrassment to the sport of disc golf. No professionalism at all, this may as well been the conduct of drunk league night competitors.
 
JTacoma03 said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again...until we have actual officials our pro tour will not be taken seriously outside of hardcore fans.
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100% agree

Organicvoodoo said:
These pros are a joke.
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notroman said:
Your trolling is getting old.
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By disagreeing with another's opinion does not mean they are trolling. In fact, I would pretty much agree wit Organicvodoo's viewpoint, this was not the conduct of professional athletes, but punks. They were punks for refusing to shake hands. Manhood is far from that crew.
 
It just shows that although they are on the same "team", it is still an individuals sport and it should be seen that way. Through out that entire video when someone made an upshot that got close to going in the basket.. you heard the other players saying things like.."get in there" but you know damn well they DON'T want the disc to "get in there" Haha in their head I just imagine them thinking, I hope it smacks the basket and rolls down a hill making it impossible to get par.. or is that just me cause I'm kind of a d*ck during competitive play Lol
 
he was within the 30 cm rule and barely off line.....this is one I let slide.
 
JTacoma03 said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again...until we have actual officials our pro tour will not be taken seriously outside of hardcore fans.

It was a foot fault FWIW, if you can't be solid in enforcing at a NT how can we harp on people for not enforcing at C-Tiers?
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AGREED


we need walking officials with all lead and chase cards at the least.
 
Teebird Elvis said:
By disagreeing with another's opinion does not mean they are trolling. In fact, I would pretty much agree wit Organicvodoo's viewpoint, this was not the conduct of professional athletes, but punks. They were punks for refusing to shake hands. Manhood is far from that crew.
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When I watched that video I just saw GG psyched for Ricky's win. They're good friends. I did not see that as an intentional action to prevent hand shaking with another player. I didn't even get that vibe until this thread was brought up. It's all about how we perceive things.

What happened there is only known by the players, and speculating on it here pretending like we know what happened is just in poor taste. We can argue about foot faults all we want, but trying to pretend we know what was going on in these players' heads? Come on.

As for my comment to OrganicVoodoo I stick by it. If you look at his post history, most of it is just jabbing at people to push their buttons, little comments to incite arguments, and general old fashioned trolling. I'm a fan of the occasional troll post but when they stop trying to be clever their crap gets old quick ;)
 
Teebird Elvis said:
this was not the conduct of professional athletes, but punks. They were punks for refusing to shake hands. Manhood is far from that crew.
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While I may feel similar in that if this was indeed the case it is poor sportsmanship, that conduct absolutely does not make them punks. This stuff happens frequently in sports, especially in heated competition. You're blind or daft if you deny it.

If you insist that they are still punks, then I insist that quite a few professional athletes are punks.
 
notroman said:
As for my comment to OrganicVoodoo I stick by it. If you look at his post history, most of it is just jabbing at people to push their buttons, little comments to incite arguments, and general old fashioned trolling. I'm a fan of the occasional troll post but when they stop trying to be clever their crap gets old quick ;)
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Respect

I find body language to be a lot more honest than words... in fact, most everybody does. You did not have to be in their heads, their actions spoke louder than their words. Sure, they will spin it differently if called out on it, but it is what it is.

I do not know OrganicVoodoo, but jumping a statement and calling him a troll when the statement was on the OP and an opinion that is held by more than just that person would not be trolling. I would not disagree with your assessment if what you said is true, but you really need to consider context before making wild accusations. Some people's personality is a little more up front and abrasive.
 
Alcuin said:
Rules should be enforced, and GG's foot fault was pretty obvious. To the person who said that Nikko is crazy for watching people's feet: 1) there is a decent chunk of money involved here and 2) have you really never seen anybody foot fault? I see it all the time, because I'm paying attention to the game I'm playing. You don't watch when your friends are throwing? It's not hard to see.

Like Hammer said though, this might be much ado about nothing. GG was already having a pretty spotty round from what I can see and the foot fault was late enough in the round that it's obvious that he wasn't firing on all cylinders anyway. I'd hope there's no animosity for the call, because it's clearly legit.
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Thank you for saying this before I could.

I can't believe that people here that play in tournaments don't watch the feet of their competitors. I play by the rules and expect to be called if I break them, and I damn sure am not letting you get a competitive advantage by bending or breaking the rules.

That was a blatant foot fault, I applaud Nikko for having the balls to call it.
 
I'm not worried about them when there isn't an advantage gained.

If a guy is throwing a 500 foot shot and steps on his mini, does that 6 inches really help? of course not. Now if someone calls it, I will second it, but I'm not making that call.

But GG gained an advantage on his foot fault (now I want to be clear. GG is my boy. He's a GREAT guy. There is no way any doubt he did this intentionally), because as a RHBH thrower, this shot was easier the further right he was.

And btw, I'm sure EVERYONE would agree that Schweb is about the nicest guy out there. Check out the Clash at Azalea video - he calls a foot fault on Brian McRee. BTW, McRee traveled with Schwebby for years and was the best man at Schwebby's wedding. It's not just the "dicks" on tour making these calls.
 
Nikko didn't fault at 20:40, his foot was directly on line with the basket. He placed his other disc down NOT in line with the basket so it looked deceiving. GG foot faulted, **** happens. When money is on the line at a tourney, I'll call a foot fault that is obvious too. I'd feel bad, but you gotta enforce the rules. I'm sure GG is fine with it, and madder at himself than Nikko.

Not a fan of Nikko, but when Barry called him on a fault last year (as he made a 35' putt) and then stuck the 2nd one, that was awesome. And calling a "Teammate" on an obvious foul, is respectable. I like GG, it's not like he was cheating, just missed his line.

I know that I pay attention to where my foot is going to land, so I don't foot fault, why should others not have to? Rules are rules. If they didn't matter, why even mark my disc. I'll just move up a few feet every time, sweet.
 
theeterrbear said:
While I may feel similar in that if this was indeed the case it is poor sportsmanship, that conduct absolutely does not make them punks. This stuff happens frequently in sports, especially in heated competition. You're blind or daft if you deny it.

If you insist that they are still punks, then I insist that quite a few professional athletes are punks.
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You ever watch the NHL playoffs? Those guys literally try to kill and maim each other for four to seven games, then when it's over, they kine up and shake hands. It's one of the greatest moments in all of sports.

I'd think some spoiled brats playing disc golf could shake their competitors hands at the end of a round no matter what.
 
BENFTS said:
he was within the 30 cm rule and barely off line.....this is one I let slide.
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Really? I watched the sequence yesterday so it's not super fresh in my mind, but I believe he was on the left side of the fairway and stepping to the right of his mark gave him a small advantage didn't it?

Nikko made the right call and I wish more people would actually call foot fault on people, starting by me. I recently starting playing in the open division in my local tournaments, and I can't believe the amount of fool faults I witness. People are stepping on the disc all the time, they even step right over it once in a while...
 
I think the "controversy" is based on WHO called it, and not WHAT he called. It was clearly a FF, but Nikko's got a bad rap here so its automatically assumed he just did it to get a leg up. Regardless of intention, it was a fair call.
 
_MTL_ said:
I'm not worried about them when there isn't an advantage gained.

If a guy is throwing a 500 foot shot and steps on his mini, does that 6 inches really help? of course not. Now if someone calls it, I will second it, but I'm not making that call.

But GG gained an advantage on his foot fault (now I want to be clear. GG is my boy. He's a GREAT guy. There is no way any doubt he did this intentionally), because as a RHBH thrower, this shot was easier the further right he was.

And btw, I'm sure EVERYONE would agree that Schweb is about the nicest guy out there. Check out the Clash at Azalea video - he calls a foot fault on Brian McRee. BTW, McRee traveled with Schwebby for years and was the best man at Schwebby's wedding. It's not just the "dicks" on tour making these calls.
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I disagree. I think if you asked that player to redo the exact same shot, but this time, without stepping over his mini, the result could be different. It takes concentration and skill to land perfectly behind your mini, and thinking about it while you throw changes a lot of thing. My opinion.
 
It was a legit call. I would have called it as well. You don't just let things slide. When you play in a PDGA tournament, you should know and play by all of the rules. NO matter what division.
 
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