[MVP] MVP Disc Sports (Official Thread) (Part II)

[Imbadatdiscgolf]

When is a speed 11 coming? I need that in my life.

 

[sneakytiki]

OAT resistance is the ability of a disc to resist moving in the direction of the torque that is not applied around the axis perpendicular to the disc. Higher speed and more overstable discs tend to be more OAT resistant. When you apply OAT you ultimately take away from the distance potential of the disc, and the flight also can become less predictable. This is why people say to work to throw with less OAT.
I do agree that controlled OAT can be a useful tool, but the reason for that is advanced line shaping, not sheer controlled distance shots.

OK, then it is just how sensitive a disc is to OAT. "Resisting torque" is what didn't make sense to me. If a force is applied to something, it will receive that force no matter the disc. How sensitive the disc is to that force, how well it can self-correct without having its expected flight path altered is another thing. It still receives the same OAT, it just doesn't care as much. Got it.

 

[in4d]

Any good pro level golfer will incorporate controlled OAT into certain shots. It opens up a lot of possibilities that aren't executable without it.

I prefer to throw a disc that naturally does what i want it to do, without forcing it with OAT. Watching the Pro Worlds right now, i don't see ANYONE throwing with OAT.

 

[JAKE master]

I prefer to throw a disc that naturally does what i want it to do, without forcing it with OAT. Watching the Pro Worlds right now, i don't see ANYONE throwing with OAT.

oat does not have to have wobble for it to be. but it would be just like you to say you dont see ANYONE doin it.

 

[nolangherity]

is there a name for his condition? always stating things so matter of factly and always thinking his opinion is truth? self righteous maybe?

 

[The Hammer]

I prefer to throw a disc that naturally does what i want it to do, without forcing it with OAT. Watching the Pro Worlds right now, i don't see ANYONE throwing with OAT.

You must not ever watch GG or Ricky Wysocki. They throw with OAT on the reg. Borg does as well, and he taught me how to do it.

 

[discspeed]

I watched Alexsey Bubis ace a 471' hole in a tournament and his shot had a small but visible amount of OAT coming out of his hand.

 

[sneakytiki]

I prefer to throw a disc that naturally does what i want it to do, without forcing it with OAT. Watching the Pro Worlds right now, i don't see ANYONE throwing with OAT.

Unless you have a high speed camera to play back the drives in slow motion you aren't going to see any OAT.

 

[Hoss22]

I prefer to throw a disc that naturally does what i want it to do, without forcing it with OAT. Watching the Pro Worlds right now, i don't see ANYONE throwing with OAT.

"ANYONE"...huh. I could name right off the top of my head five players that are playing and throwing with OAT regularly. :doh:

 

[The Hammer]

in4d seems to talk out of his rectum quite a bit. He reminds me of Plex. I wonder if he is the same guy since Plex was banned about the same time that in4d registered. I think I'm on to something. Hmmmm......

 

[in4d]

off axis torque is different than torque, the pros that torque a disc still keep the disc ON a clean axis without wobble. you don't want it to be off axis while it flies.. dave feldberg explained this in a clinic, theres a difference.

OAT is bad, proper axis torque to get a disc to do something like an anny from release is different.

No matter what every disc released will have even the tiniest bit of off axis torque, what you want is a clean torque on axis of release.. i do this all the time, especially on anny or hyzer lines.

sorry i didn't explain myself clearly.

 

[The Hammer]

Plex,
You don't know what you're talking about. Just stop.

 

[sneakytiki]

If anything, a pro's drive typically can handle MORE OAT, since the speed and snap on the disc is so high it will dampen that OAT very quickly after release. I remember seeing some max D drives in slow motion from some huge armed individual I can't remember the name of. It was crazy how much the disc wobbled out of the hand... then it flew for 700+ft.

 

[Aim For The Chains]

Double G^

 

[in4d]

Hammer you cant even prove me wrong, you say i don't know what im talking about without a valid argument against what i said. At least show me you have a brain and try prove me and Feldberg wrong with your supreme intelligence. :doh:

 

[The Hammer]

Hammer you cant even prove me wrong, you say i don't know what im talking about without a valid argument against what i said. At least show me you have a brain and try prove me and Feldberg wrong with your supreme intelligence. :doh:

Plex,
I would be proving Feldburg right as he is the one who taught me how to use OAT to manipulate the flight of discs. I don't need to say anything to prove you wrong. You do the work for me.

Is the in4d account the one that got you perma-banned?

 

[in4d]

Plex,
I would be proving Feldburg right as he is the one who taught me how to use OAT to manipulate the flight of discs. I don't need to say anything to prove you wrong. You do the work for me.

Is the in4d account the one that got you perma-banned?

why are you calling me Plex? that is not me

also, you must agree with me then and just be trolling, because feldberg clearly supports my claims in his clinics.

 

[The Hammer]

off axis torque is different than torque, the pros that torque a disc still keep the disc ON a clean axis without wobble.

Yup, no wobble. What do I win?

 

[The Hammer]

why are you calling me Plex? that is not me

You don't really think I'm that stupid, do you?

 

[ZAMson]

controlled OAT is a thing and super-skilled players utilize it. ZJ talks about his use of it all the time.

uncontrolled OAT is a common form flaw for less than super-skilled players.