Toughest course you have played

[Monocacy]

Hawk Hollow on a windy day (and I throw mostly 150s)
Seneca Creek long to C
Patapsco Green Monster

 

[el siege]

http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=2505#

Pictures from Justin Trails look downright evil.

 

[TheWCG]

Centralia, IL
Foundation park

Holy crap in the longs...:|

 

[Mbagnola1]

Toboggan fo shizzle. After that I don't know. Maybe Fallasburg and Rogers Lakewood?

Played Rogers Lakewood last week and it was set up in the " dominater" position. That course is tough enough but the new pin positions made it the hardest course I've ever played.

 

[hipster]

Phantom Falls (#6 Top Rated). Beautiful mountain course and a lot of fun. But it is TOUGH. Tight windows and every shot is part of it. But it's 35 holes at 8000 feet with plenty of up and down the whole way. Put it this way, I lost 10 lbs the day we played it (80 degrees).

i needs to spend 7 to 10 days playing Phantom Falls, lose 50 lbs or so. i would need to haul oxygen with me to play 8000 feet asl. would love to play a mountain course some day.

toughest 3 ive played
pike lake
great seal
idlewild

 

[dmbrun2]

Centralia, IL
Foundation park

Holy crap in the longs...:|

agree...wow

 

[erock216]

Idlewild and toboggan for me.

 

[jongoff09]

I haven't played many courses, but Selah Ranch has the toughest courses I have played. From the blue tees, the SSA for Lakeside was around 66 and par is 69. At the tournament I played there, only two people broke par, and one of those was Schusterick who shot a 64.

Creekside is a nightmare when the wind is blowing on the finishing three holes.

 

[jchoate7]

Hardest course I have played so far is Iron Hill in Delaware. I haven't played Nockamixon yet though and it's on my "dream sheet".

 

[grodney]

I haven't played many courses, but Selah Ranch has the toughest courses I have played. From the blue tees, the SSA for Lakeside was around 66 and par is 69. At the tournament I played there, only two people broke par, and one of those was Schusterick who shot a 64.

Creekside is a nightmare when the wind is blowing on the finishing three holes.

So I was reading this thread and kept wondering: Where is Selah? I'm not saying it's as tough as all those listed here, but I don't think it's probably far behind.

In 3.5 days playing there, I didn't even attempt a round of Singles. I have shot within a stroke or two of par on Renny (both Old and gold). I honestly don't think I could come close to that at either Selah course.

 

[ESPNEWS]

How about SeaTac in Seattle, WA?

 

[biscoe]

hawk hollow isn't even the toughest course in spotsy- loriella long is way harder.

 

[biscoe]

I disagree.

A course with 18 500 foot open holes will have basically have the exact same SSA as a course with 18 550 foot holes - probably about 56 or so.

But one course is 900 feet further...

bad example- that course will also have the same par for all those holes so your method would call them the same in difficulty. whether the ssa is the same or not will depend on the profile of the propagators- for a bunch of top dogs ssa will be the same between the two- for a bunch of intermediate players the extra 50 feet per hole will matter. (200 foot upshots as opposed to 250)

do you think a 5000 foot ssa 54 course is more difficult than an 8000 foot ssa 54 course?

 

[Captain Bad]

Handyman Ace Hardware in Fairborn (Dayton), Ohio. But I'm heading down to Idlewild this weekend so we'll see if that changes.

 

[Kenny53691]

Handyman Ace Hardware in Fairborn (Dayton), Ohio. But I'm heading down to Idlewild this weekend so we'll see if that changes.

I played HAH when it first opened, and I think it's a really good course. It didn't kick my butt near as bad as Idlewild did, just make sure you play all 24 holes....

 

[joshmo65]

I just went into my scorebook and checked my highest scores and tried to remember the courses. I am a mid to low level advanced player and these were the ones I thought were the toughest.

Idlewild - 2 rounds averaging 9 over
Iron Hill - 3 rounds averaging 13 over golds to golds
Black Diamond DGC - 1 round at 14 over from golds
Maple Hill - 1 round at 20 over from golds
Nockamixon - 4 rounds averaging 9 over

And I can't believe no one has said the Paw Paw courses:
Whippin' Post - 3 rounds averaging 12 over
Woodshed - 4 rounds averaging 5 over

 

[sgamerp]

Idlewild and Goliath probably.

 

[BogeyNoMore]

One day, I'd like to see how bad Nocky kicks my @$$.

 

[smyith]

Idlewild and Goliath probably.

goliath is easy. the hardest part about that course is navigation.

 

[_MTL_]

do you think a 5000 foot ssa 54 course is more difficult than an 8000 foot ssa 54 course?

Yes, I do.

Because there is a reason that a course would ahve an extra 3,000 feet yet not showcase it in the strokes when compared to the 5,000 foot course.

It's either because the 5,000 foot course is very hard or becasue the 8,000 foot course is very easy. Why else would they be the same SSA?

I could make a course with wide open 600 foot par 4's all day - imagine hole 17 at Cedarock in Burlington every single hole. Par would be 72 but SSA would be like 59. That's not hard. At all.