Disc golf snobs

[ru4por]

A certain amount of this is to be expected when guys are together. I think a lot of it comes from the competitive nature of a lot of players. I think a lot of it comes from the "my d**k is bigger" nature of most guys in a group situation.

 

[yangs1]

I will admit I can definitley be snobbish. Especially when it comes to etiquette. This depends on the round. Just like anything else in life you need to know how to behave for the situation. A far as newbies go, I don't have a problem with them unless they throw on me and are a distraction. I do not have time for the groups who don't take a round at least remotely seriously. I rolled up on group last year that were literally throwing discs at each other.

 

[BirdieMachine]

I'm not a snob and I've been playing casual for 20 years. Typically shoot 1100+ rated rounds but not a member of the PDGA. I know I'm the best putter in the world and I laugh at anyone who misses a 30 footer. I have so many Aces I've lost count, its over 100 but less then 1000. Anyone who drives it less then 400 with a Mid is a flat out puss boy. I hate Newbs and yell at them little turds to get out of my way, this is my course! I would beat any pro any day on any course, really would have to spot them 2 a side to make it fair. I dont play in Tourneys because they would be too easy and boring. I am the KING of disc golf. Now everyone bow to your master!

 

[Widdershins]

as far as talking about scores, there are different skill levels. my friends make me feel like a prick because i'm always aiming to shoot even or under. they always shoot over by a fair amount, so when i start talking about how i didn't play that well at +1 or +2 (usually because i miss my putts, incidentally), they basically start whining and tell me to stop talking about it.

just because someone scores better than you on an average/subpar day doesn't make them a snob. sometimes you're the snob because you asked someone how they played and they were honest with you, but you're an insecure little ****. Not you personally, OP. sometimes i get irked by my pals. and sometimes i like to talk about my shot selection strategy while i'm discing; bouncing ideas off people. sometimes i will throw a midrange on a hole where normally i'd use a driver.

i understand you're talking about going out of one's way to be a snob, though - not honest disc discussion on the course.

and as far as noise goes, i like to concentrate. yeah, you have to deal with other outside factors, but why contribute to the distractions? i won't yell at anybody for it; hell, i won't even say anything unless people are actually really being annoying, doing things like talking LOUD, busting out laughing, etc. and definitely don't walk in front of me while i'm putting, please. during a casual round it's obviously different. couldn't care less. but at leagues, i put money in the pot. be respectful.

other than that, i agree.

Some players play the game seriously, some don't. I play seriously. I try very hard to throw good shots. I try to improve my game. I show courtesy to others at a Pro tournament level and expect the same from my group in a competitive round. Not everyone is comfortable with this. Heck most casual players don't recognize when they are talking, moving, scratching that they are violating courtesy when someone else is shooting. Tournament level courtesy is common behavior when Pros are playing a money round with each other. Amateurs who like to be invited to play in these rounds are wise to learn this.

Playing seriously doesn't mean no fun. It doesn't mean no joking around or trash talking or drinking beer. It just recognizes that disc golf can be played with great effort and respects the competitive process.

It ain't bragging if you can do it. This famous quote has some truth to it. What some take as snobbish or arrogant may be no more than unvarnished candor.

Sometimes candor comes off as harsh. I was playing in a money round and getting my butt kicked (which is fine, when you play against good players it is going to happen). I was lining up to putt when a guy I didn't know, from another fairway came over and started asking me questions. I was already in a bad mood and faced a tough putt after a bad drive. The guy interrupting would not be put off. He wanted advice on the game. I told him to see me after the round. I set up to putt again. He interrupted again. Finally he noted my bad drive and said maybe he should get a lesson from someone better than me. My group snickered. He asked me how good I really was. I replied, "Better than you will ever be."

My group thought this was hilarious. The guy slunk off, embarrassed. I wasn't trying to be nasty but I'm sure it came off this way. I regretted my words but I never saw this guy again to tell him so.

 

[wake911]

I've played a variety of sports and hobbies over the years before I got involved in Disc Golf.
Trust me, there are people like the OP talked about in every sport.
DG is actually more laid back than a lot of sports than I've played, but snobs exist.

It's really a shame that pricks have populated the most laid-back, fun sport out there...

It's the same in EVERYTHING. Guitars, Music, Cars, Waterskiing, Baseball, Disc Golf, Golf. Seems like some folks get WAY too involved and inadvertently become snobs (I'd rather call them d-bags really)

There is a big tonal difference between snobbery and honesty. For instance, if I am mad I shot a +1 on a course, and someone asks me how i shot, I could go 2 ways:
A) "Really sucked it up today, shot a +1"
B) "Shot a +1 today, how'd you do?"

If the person asking isn't as good as me, and would be ecstatic with a +1, then A would make me come off as a snob/d-bag. But, B they might respond with "Wow, awesome round. I shot +7, had a pretty good day." Then I would know not to really bring up that I sucked at my +1.

And people actually say "Nice shot, but I normally use a mid-range there."? that isn't snobbery, that's being a complete d-bag. I can throw further than almost all my friends, and they joke about "Oh, you pulling out your putter for this hole while I use my Driver". But i don't ever make that joke. and Even moreso with people I don't know on the course. I would prefer to be seen as a nice guy, not a d-bag. Self awareness and humility seems to be lacking in the world right now.

 

[rd.bittle]

^lol.

 

[Stardoggy]

It's the same in EVERYTHING. Guitars, Music, Cars, Waterskiing, Baseball, Disc Golf, Golf. Seems like some folks get WAY too involved and inadvertently become snobs (I'd rather call them d-bags really)

How dare you sully the name of the water-skiing community.

 

[7ontheline]

I stopped trying to help people like that about a year ago when I had three or four bad experiences in a row, where I'd offer some advice and they'd just blow me off or get downright hostile.

I've only been playing DG for a few years but the grandmasters at my home course have been kind enough to share their decades of experience when I asked for help. I've been throwing Ultrastars since 1991 and ball golf my whole life and find it hard not to offer advice when I see obvious flaws in someone's form or course management.

I've found 4 out of 5 folks will respond positively when I politely ask, "can I give you some unsolicited advice?" If they don't respond or say no then its all good and I don't have to worry about them not having any fun for playing like newbs.

 

[smitdavi]

I wouldn't say I'm a snob, but I stereotype people real quick...I'm horrible about judging books by their cover, if you will.

Like when I'm on the course and there's the guy throwing nothing but Bosses, even to putt with, I just assume he's a gomer with no true interest in the game. Which is bad. That person may really, really love disc golf but just honestly doesn't have a clue...like any sport/hobby/what have you, disc golf can seem daunting to the uninitiated. I stopped trying to help people like that about a year ago when I had three or four bad experiences in a row, where I'd offer some advice and they'd just blow me off or get downright hostile.

At least I can admit it, but it's still pretty terrible. It didn't really occur to me until reading this thread that when I come strolling up on a course with my backpack bag full of discs and start playing, that perhaps I am the one who is intimidating newer players with my aloofness. Yet I'm also always preaching about expanding the game and helping new and young players along.

I'm a kind of an *******, eh?

As a complete and utter noob (3 weeks of experience), it is really intimidating to play with the guys that have a backpack full of discs, multiple if not many years of experience, and can bomb drives exactly where they want them to go. But, so far these are the guys that have helped me out the most, I like to pick their brains, get their opinions. Believe me, I'm scared that they are thinking "wtf, I'm stuck with this noob" and they are going to judge me or that I'm really going to embarrass myself in front of a seasoned vet. If you don't say anything to me I would just assume that you think you are better than me and have nothing to offer. I WANT and WELCOME the advice. Without guys like you not speaking up or opening up than I would not enjoy this as much as I do. I challenge you to keep talking to us, you never know, you might get another one hooked.

 

[Stardoggy]

As a complete and utter noob (3 weeks of experience), it is really intimidating to play with the guys that have a backpack full of discs, multiple if not many years of experience, and can bomb drives exactly where they want them to go. But, so far these are the guys that have helped me out the most, I like to pick their brains, get their opinions. Believe me, I'm scared that they are thinking "wtf, I'm stuck with this noob" and they are going to judge me or that I'm really going to embarrass myself in front of a seasoned vet. If you don't say anything to me I would just assume that you think you are better than me and have nothing to offer. I WANT and WELCOME the advice. Without guys like you not speaking up or opening up than I would not enjoy this as much as I do. I challenge you to keep talking to us, you never know, you might get another one hooked.

I wouldn't even worry about it. I carry a big bag full of discs, but I'm still intimidated by the guys that bomb from the long tees and drop 30' putts like they owe them money.

 

[mattc]

I've not run into too many of those types but what I like are the tourney snobs. Especially at a trophy only unsanctioned tourney like the one I play at Madeline Bertrand. They can't throw unless it is perfectly quiet and no one is moving. They play like they are going up against Phil Mickelson on the 18th at Augusta for the win.

Don't worry tourney snob, we're not laughing at you we're laughing near you.

Tourneys are just that, a Tourney
No matter what or how the pay out
You should have respect for the rules of the game and personal etiquette.
If you don't want to do that, don't play in tourneys.
It's not being a snob, its being respectful to others.
That should be done no matter what you are doing

 

[ohtobediscing]

I would venture that most of the prick-ness we see on the course is just a prevailing attitude of society---basically a loss of respect for other people and an erosion of manners. I say this because I see the same idiots in stores, bars, movie theaters, art walks, etc.
Meanwhile, those who act smug or haughty usually wind up playing alone, as most discers that I know won't tolerate that crap.
As for me, its hard to be holier-than-thou when you shoot -14 in doubles one week and +1 in them the next.

 

[BrotherDave]

And people actually say "Nice shot, but I normally use a mid-range there."? that isn't snobbery, that's being a complete d-bag. I can throw further than almost all my friends, and they joke about "Oh, you pulling out your putter for this hole while I use my Driver". But i don't ever make that joke. and Even moreso with people I don't know on the course. I would prefer to be seen as a nice guy, not a d-bag. Self awareness and humility seems to be lacking in the world right now.

Maybe that snob is tired of your driver kicking or skipping off into the woods and is trying to teach you the value of staying on the fairway? :\

 

[The Last DJ]

On the bright side of things, we do have fewer snobs in disc golf than in ball golf....

 

[disc qualified]

part of it is that we are living in an era where people are easily offended and genetically have thinner skin than previous generations thus causing their feelings and their butt to be hurt by the words or actions of others

 

[Clonan]

Maybe that snob is tired of your driver kicking or skipping off into the woods and is trying to teach you the value of staying on the fairway? :\

Thats an awfully snobby thing to say :\

 

[wake911]

Maybe that snob is tired of your driver kicking or skipping off into the woods and is trying to teach you the value of staying on the fairway? :\

if they say (after a skip into woods with driver) "I normally use a midrange here, since it helps lessen the risk of a bad kick off a tree" is a lot different than after you throw a great shot with your driver (as OP stated) "Nice shot, but I normally use my mid range here" That is more of a Dbag braggart move than your instance, which is 100% a nice gesture.

(also has a lot to do with your body language and tone when you say it.)

 

[Rockiesfan4ever]

Maybe that snob is tired of your driver kicking or skipping off into the woods and is trying to teach you the value of staying on the fairway? :\

Even if that is the case, there is a better way to give advice or say something about it.

 

[disc qualified]

If somebody said to me "Nice shot, but I normally use my mid range here" I would probably stare at them like a drunk monkey and say "Neat. Thanks for sharing "

Do people seriously get upset about these kind of things? If so, you really need to work on your mental game.

 

[Curtis_Valk]

..............I would beat any pro any day on any course, really would have to spot them 2 a side to make it fair. I dont play in Tourneys because they would be too easy and boring. I am the KING of disc golf. Now everyone bow to your master!

Organicvoodoo is that you?