Hucker Magazine Complaint Thread

[@iDiscGolf]

Nintendo Power!

 

[shawny0123]

Wasn't this a venture of the UB guys? Seems like they took your money to design a new bag and expand their product line opcorn:

 

[Jukeshoe]

I got $10 for a single issue if someone wants to part with a copy, I can help you get some money back.

People who subscribed sorry you got burnt but you should not have taken the gamble on a sub with out the thought of this might not make it in the back of your mind.

Print is a excellent medium for communication even in the modern world. I remember a time where a magazine that came out once a month was YOUR window into what ever it was that you were passionate about. The younger generation has missed out on going to the mailbox and the new issue is inside waiting to be caressed, fondled and flipped thru right at the curb. Sure the content was three months old but it was as current as you could get without being there. I still remember when I saw the issue of Go! with Mat Hoffman doing the first backflip to fakie on a vert ramp in England!

Magazines are easy to hold, flip, and actually use/read. No internet needed, just open a page and read. Open a page and study the photos, it is there instantly with no loading time needed. Print just feels right.

Putting out a periodical is hard work and generally done for the love of the medium. Magazines are such an expressive and creative outlet for people and I do appreciate success and failures of past magazines I enjoyed over the years. I have even done two local 'Zines with a little success in my hometown.

I will also admit I have a good sized magazine collection mostly BMX rags from days gone by. I have every issue of Freestylin' Magazine including when the name changed to Go! I have every issue of Snap BMX, and every issue of Ride BMX from the free issue #1 to up the 150's ( I think ). I have the last 25 years worth of Mountain Bike Action as well. I also have the hardbound "last" effort/anniversary of Freestylin' in the original box. Few of these were made and at one point people were paying $500.00 for a copy and yes, I kept mine!

When I think of all the fanzines I read in the 80's and early 90's it makes me kinda miss that connection to the things I was into. You had to know where to go and get those things; it was part of the social network that you were plugged into and you learned things from reading them that Joe Schmo poser couldn't know. I always loved getting the new issue and digging in.

Now Joe Schmo poser can just google it.

Totally agree with all the above! :thmbup:

I just recently busted out my magazine collection from days gone by, and I miss all the bygone fanzines...I've got a bunch of underground metal zines from the mid-90's to early-00's, and those are brilliant (if sometimes ugly). Read some of the album reviews, and they were spot on...it's like: wow, these people really know what they're talking about. Now, people just google it and pretend they know what they're talking about.

I've got a fair-sized collection of baseball Beckett's, the metal zines, a bunch of Nintendo Power (including the first issue and first several years...as well as the pre-Nintendo Power zine from the fan club...name's escaping me at the moment), and a bunch other random stuff.

I, for one, TOTALLY miss the heyday of print zines.

 

[Clonan]

This. Starting a print magazine on any subject much less a niche sport like disc golf is pretty much DOA. Should have did an e-mag and then collected a lot of the material, techniques and really nice photography for a year end print book.

DING*

 

[runningDoc]

man i was waiting for the Japan Open coverage issue:


Hucker Magazine

BARELY LEGAL!
[Cover Showing 159g discs]

 

[Martin Dewgarita]

Wasn't this a venture of the UB guys? Seems like they took your money to design a new bag and expand their product line opcorn:

We were a part early on and quickly realized it would be too much for me to handle by myself and that I would rather just do design work, I do know that there were about 300 subscriptions and te first issue cost 8,000 to print 1000 copies any qty less would have cost more then 8,000. The owner came out of his pocket a large chunk to cover shipping cost and not a single company wanted to advertise making it very hard to make anything happen. I am willing to send a Procul to people that didn't receive anything first. I don't want anyone to feel like the got got but I know the owner has no way to make up for anything because it put him in the hole as it is

DG Guy says he has an interview with Phillip (the owner I guess) This Saturday at the USDGC. I'd guess there will be a video blog with some answers.

 

[Anon]

I'm not sure what kind of answers The Disc Golf Guy is looking for.

"We ran out of money because we tried to start a print-only product targeted towards a tiny niche audience in 2014."

And now to Tom for the weather...

 

[bbwrenn]

Wasn't this a venture of the UB guys? Seems like they took your money to design a new bag and expand their product line opcorn:

From the little I know about the situation (not much) I thought the UB guys just helped fund it and jumped ship when it wasn't looking good. Not really much blame on them.

 

[Jukeshoe]

^ I'm not sure if the exact role UB played has been confirmed as of yet, unless I'm missing a thread somewhere...

Edit: If it's on FB, I wouldn't have seen it. I'd love to be filled in on any sort of business ties between UB and Hucker. opcorn:

 

[bbwrenn]

Yeah, not sure about FB (I don't have one either) but somebody said something to that effect on here a while ago if I'm not mistaken. I dunno, I don't keep up closely enough to be an accurate source of information.

 

[Martin Dewgarita]

about 5 posts up ^ I posted UB's response that they posted on facebook...

 

[bbwrenn]

Haha, I actually didn't even read that to be honest. Wow, I look like a dope now. Dunno where I saw information on it, but it's been a little while. May or June, I feel like.

 

[Jukeshoe]

about 5 posts up ^ I posted UB's response that they posted on facebook...

I guess I'm not sure that answer defines the business relationship. In precisely what way were they "involved early on" from a business/legal standpoint?

 

[rocthecourse]

I guess I'm not sure that answer defines the business relationship. In precisely what way were they "involved early on" from a business/legal standpoint?

"Hucker Magazine: There are two of us, Michael Brouphy and Phillip Murray. I believe the reason you are asking how we will be able to remain neutral is because of Michael being the owner of UB Disc Golf. This was an early discussion when starting this project, and Michael chose his own position at Hucker as Creative Director. The reason he chose this position is so that he would have no control or input regarding the content going into the magazine. Even without this safeguard on the content, both of our intentions with this magazine are to better disc golf as a whole, not to better our own personal interests. I think after the first issue it will be clear that we are taking a look at every section of the game and not choosing sides, and we believe that people will truly be happy with the product we are delivering."

Quoted from - http://allthingsdiscgolf.com/hucker-magazine-disc-golf/

A little info, not sure if there is better info out there.

 

[Jukeshoe]

Right. That's regarding an attempt to remain neutral in content. Not in business relationship.

I believe the above statement would seem to indicate that Hucker Magazine is in a direct business relationship with UB disc golf.

They can say they want to remain separate, but if there's any sort of money flow between the two, well....

 

[AndyJB]

Well when the guy behind Hucker screwed me over by not paying men for all the work I did on the first issue (which was a lot) it was UB who stepped up and covered for him.

 

[Jukeshoe]

Which would further indicate some sort of a business relationship, to me. opcorn:

 

[Jukeshoe]

Did everybody end up getting the items/subscriptions that they paid for? Or a refund?

I'm curious how this all turned out...

 

[46YearOldSlinger]

I paid for a full years subscription and a tee-shirt. All I got was one magazine. Fairly pissed at one point but at some point just gotta let it go. F**k um...

 

[Jukeshoe]

Did you fill a complaint with the BBB?