That is correct. 2.1 would be the first run on a second mold.
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[Innova] Thunderbird
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That is correct. 2.1 would be the first run on a second mold.
ZAMson
^Has PhD in Disc-Artistry
Ehhhhhhhhhhhh.
I love run numbers, I advocated pretty hard to bring those back after MILL had dropped them for years. And Innova hated them coming back, btw. The internal discussion was that it complicated stamping and only served to highlight run differences, but the players liked that. For the most part the run numbers mean something. But the execution of those numbers fell to some management who didn't give a flying **** about the product for a while, and multiple runs were stamped as the same run or they were stamped with the wrong run. Compounded with that, these discs came from the Innova factory. Within a run of MILL discs there are several-to-many different types. Run numbers don't describe all that. It's less vague than pen markings and all that, but it's hardly a reliable identifier. Great concept... really really great concept, but poor execution and the assumption that "a run" has global similarity.
I am sure you know that the flight path changes with different runs of discs. The supply of plastic changes, the mold starts to wear, humidity/temperature, etc. all affect the end product. The 1.1 SOLS might fly differently than a 1.2 run. If you prefer the flight of the 1.1 run, you have an easy way of differentiating between the runs.
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PMantle
* Ace Member *
Ah, so you have to already know what each run does. That's not even similar to what we were discussing.
curveball4
* Ace Member *
I thought it meant 25th batch of the first run. But again I've been wrong once already this week
^ This.
I don't have any inside knowledge on this, but I don't think it will be a PD. I think a PD will have more fade still.
You can't judge everything by the flight numbers, they're just a guide. What this site tends to overlook is the small changes in the designing/molding process that can have a much larger difference in final flight pattern. A great example of this is a P2 vs a McPro aviar. Very similar molds (you have to hold one next to the other to see the differences) but off the tee you can see the flight differences.
BirdieMachine
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Yes and no, once you find what you really like you are able to repurchase with greater certainty an exact duplicate/s.
ZAMson
^Has PhD in Disc-Artistry
You have to know what each run is supposed to be like. Then you need to know how to identify the outliers. Then you need to know how to identify the ones from the two runs that are mistakenly stamped with that run (by pen marks or by sheer plastic whispering). You also need to know if a straight up unapproved model (SOS) was stamped as something it isn't (SOLS). Keep it simple. I think the new owners have shown a lot of love and care to that brand, for what it's worth.
Everytime I see this thread, I want to drink cheap booze. I like that.
Definitely buying one of these and will be putting a Night Train stamp on my Valkryie.
yea, takes me back. :hfive:
natedg1976
Double Eagle Member
Disc Fiend
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opcorn:Unzbuzzled
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Got a reply from Innova regarding release dates:
Thank you for your interest in the new Thunderbird. We have not yet set a release date, but we hope to have the Thunderbird available in late September or early October.
Thank you for throwing INNOVA.
INNOVA Champion Discs
Thank you for your interest in the new Thunderbird. We have not yet set a release date, but we hope to have the Thunderbird available in late September or early October.
Thank you for throwing INNOVA.
INNOVA Champion Discs
Stevenunya
Bogey Member
The announcer on discgolfplanet.tv talked to Dave Dunipace for a minute during worlds and he said that the Thunderbird will be released in September.
blammo
Birdie Member
...In before somebody throws it and says "it flies straight but it definitely has some turn, more like 9/5/-1/1.5"
adaptive1
Par Member
Man with those numbers I would hope it would be a remake of the Champ SL.
I'm not one to get excited about new discs, but this one I'll have to try out.
It is nice to see a slower disc out there. And similar to one my favorites; the PD. As far as the "gap" discussion, remember there are those of us, for one reason or another, that don't throw the higher speed discs (rim size, lack of power, etc). For more a Teebird is a fairway and a PD is my distance driver. So in that situation it makes sense. I would agree that, if you throw something like a destroyer a PD may not be a necessary disc. Mcbeth carries PDs and destroyers tho; to each their own.
It is nice to see a slower disc out there. And similar to one my favorites; the PD. As far as the "gap" discussion, remember there are those of us, for one reason or another, that don't throw the higher speed discs (rim size, lack of power, etc). For more a Teebird is a fairway and a PD is my distance driver. So in that situation it makes sense. I would agree that, if you throw something like a destroyer a PD may not be a necessary disc. Mcbeth carries PDs and destroyers tho; to each their own.
whentherainscome
* Ace Member *
I get more or less the same distance with both. The PD is the winner for me because of the C and P lines letting me flick and flip and laser with the same mold, getting just a little bit easier distance.
If this Thunderbird is a beefcake in Glo/Metal Flake, and a glidecake in G* or the $$ current blend of Pro/P-Line.. I just might have to check one out in 2016 or so, when I'm out of PPDs and finally season my C-Line.
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