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He meant to "turn a phrase"
No no, he meant to "paraphrase".
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He meant to "turn a phrase"
First let me say that in my experiences the Prodigy management team are a bunch of jerkoffs. However, you'll have to help me understand how the players were "duped." It seems pretty clear they were paid well for the first year of their contracts. They were the first manufacturer to offer salaries to their entire team. This set a new standard, and raised the bar for all other manufacturers contracts. Professional disc golfers have greatly benefited from Prodigy entering the market. Now, it is also pretty clear that their market share is not what they had hoped it would be, and it is trending in the wrong direction. So, they are unable to compensate their team at the level they did at their outset. That is not duping someone, that is how business works, you don't give people raises while you're losing money.
In the early videos from the Prodigy team members it sounded like most of them thought as "owners" of the company they would have a long-term income, which would make playing disc golf a sustainable endeavor. Given the Prodigy "hug" at the Memorial and Will's shout of "Best Team Ever", I think they honestly believed this long-term income applied to the entire team. As in, they truly believed a brand-new company could fund that many top pros. This is where they were duped. The business types made them believe they could fund that many top pros for a long period, when it never would be possible. They couldn't even afford to hold on to the #2 player, at the time he left, current #1. The same year Prodigy lost Ricky they sent zero of those original top pros to the Aussie Open.
I don't know what was promised behind closed doors, but I never thought Prodigy had a sustainable business model funding that many top pros. The original team was only formed to build the brand; it wasn't formed to help those top pros have long-term careers as they appeared to believe.
I think my use of slang has been 'misunderestimated'...
In the early videos from the Prodigy team members it sounded like most of them thought as "owners" of the company they would have a long-term income, which would make playing disc golf a sustainable endeavor. Given the Prodigy "hug" at the Memorial and Will's shout of "Best Team Ever", I think they honestly believed this long-term income applied to the entire team. As in, they truly believed a brand-new company could fund that many top pros. This is where they were duped. The business types made them believe they could fund that many top pros for a long period, when it never would be possible. They couldn't even afford to hold on to the #2 player, at the time he left, current #1. The same year Prodigy lost Ricky they sent zero of those original top pros to the Aussie Open.
I don't know what was promised behind closed doors, but I never thought Prodigy had a sustainable business model funding that many top pros. The original team was only formed to build the brand; it wasn't formed to help those top pros have long-term careers as they appeared to believe.
I'd buy that assessment. It's pure speculation though.
This is stuck in my head:Now Lat64 and DD are poaching all the old Prodigy guys. Circle of life.
Now the Lion King soundtrack is stuck in my head.
Prodigy forgot rule 1:
You make money in this sport off ams, not pros.
There's a reason Innova and Discraft have stepped up with signing ambassadors and Juniors.
Prodigy forgot rule 1:
You make money in this sport off ams, not pros.
There's a reason Innova and Discraft have stepped up with signing ambassadors and Juniors.
Prodigy forgot rule 1:
You make money in this sport off ams, not pros.
There's a reason Innova and Discraft have stepped up with signing ambassadors and Juniors.
True, and let me extend this before it goes on a tangent: they make money selling discs and equpment to ams. Signing ambassadors and Juniors is just fine, but it's disc sales that count... and IMHO that is one place Prodigy continues to be behind Innova, Discraft and (the rising stars of) Trilogy.
They (Prodigy) have a huge gap between Speed 10 to Speed 13; and to be honest, the H-series isn't 'all that', so it's really a gap between Speed 7 or so and Speed 13 discs. The Prodigy pros may be okay with that, but it's an issue for casual players.