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[Moose33]

I had a good friend who got Lyme a couple of years ago, coinciding with what ended up being a difficult but recoverable bout of mouth cancer. She didn't realize the Lyme was a big part of her symptoms until nearly the next year since it isn't constant and by the time she got treatment they said it would be something she always dealt with to some degree.

It's nothing to play around with, wish Rick the best and hope he in on the course soon.

 

[Orioles_Lefty]

Early detection and subsequent sound treatment are important with Lyme, as they are with most illnesses.

 

[ru4por]

After several months untreated or inadequately treated, people may go on to develop chronic problems that affect many parts of the body, including the joints, nerves, brain eyes, and heart. Oils are not appropriate treatment. He's gambling his disc golf career and permanent health over some spiritual reasoning. As a Christian, I accept that things like modern medicine and antibiotics are perfectly fine and Acceptable.

What does this have to do with science? Honestly, this quote kind of freaked me out. As a Christian, the expected behavior is to reject critical thinking most of the time?

 

[Nick Pacific]

Back in June of this year after playing the famed "Toboggan" course in Michigan I pulled a tick off my pant legs before getting in the car for the day. The next morning I woke up to find another one crawling up the wall next to my bed/clothes hamper. Talk about a scary site to wake up to.

Suffice to say I do very thorough tick checks after every day of disc golf nowadays. You want to turn your clothes inside out and check them up and down, inside your pant legs is where they like to hitch a ride. The science nerds online say that with the climate warming going on they will only continue to get worse.

I'd imagine with many of these players being on the road, sleeping in their vans and not having daily access to the regular modern conveniences most regular people do they are at an even higher risk.

 

[BuiltTooLong]

Permethrine treated clothes will paralyze ticks on contact, but Rick and other golfers are frugal. As Heinold has pointed out in the Weema thread, these touring pros don't even have enough $ to buy into tournaments during the tiered registration time, so maybe buying a $10 spray as a preventative measure is too costly.

Then again, if Rick doesn't believe in antibiotics, he probably doesn't believe in bugspray either. But for the rest of you out there, I HIGHLY recommend treating your clothes with Permethrine every other month. I also reccomend using Picaridin on your skin in lieu of deet.

 

[Arisugawa]

Permethrine treated clothes will paralyze ticks on contact, but Rick and other golfers are frugal. As Heinold has pointed out in the Weema thread, these touring pros don't even have enough $ to buy into tournaments during the tiered registration time, so maybe buying a $10 spray as a preventative measure is too costly.

Then again, if Rick doesn't believe in antibiotics, he probably doesn't believe in bugspray either. But for the rest of you out there, I HIGHLY recommend treating your clothes with Permethrine every other month. I also reccomend using Picaridin on your skin in lieu of deet.

Permethrin is also toxic for cats, so many of us are averse to using it simply because we'd like to avoid any exposure to our pets.

 

[Streets]

Permethrin is also toxic for cats, so many of us are averse to using it simply because we'd like to avoid any exposure to our pets.

Permethrin is toxic to cats you say...

 

[B The V]

Concentrated permethrin is very dangerous to cats. Your treated clothing will more than likely not cause problems with your feline friends. I usually just treat the clothing I plan to play dg in and I usually take everything off as soon as I get home and put it in the wash machine. I believe that treating your clothing with permethrin, spraying picaridin on exposed skin, and always performing a tick check to be the best method to prevent ticks. Lyme disease is scary. The list of other diseases you put yourself at getting from a tick is scarier. Protect yourself people. Like it was said above, the bullseye rash doesn't always appear and early detection is key.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/07/11/627843581/if-you-spray-your-clothes-with-permethrin-be-careful-around-the-cat

 

[SaROCaM]

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What does this have to do with science? Honestly, this quote kind of freaked me out. As a Christian, the expected behavior is to reject critical thinking most of the time?

Re-read the post you quoted and the poster's previous post immediately preceding it. They are advocating for modern medicine while stressing that spirituality should not get in the way of receiving proper treatment. They identify as a Christian to show that one can be religious/spiritual while also believing in science (in contrast with others who may reject science due to religious/spiritual reasons.)

Seems like you got freaked out by the word "Christian" and it momentarily affected your reading comprehension. Christian figures have a rich history of critical thinking, studies in logic, reason, philosophy, sciences, etc. Thomas More, Galileo, Copernicus, Marconi, Riemann, Pasteur, Lister, Kelvin, Lemaitre, Thirring, just to list some of the more famous ones. Faith and science do not have to be at odds. The ideal is to have faith drive a rational understanding of the universe, and for rational thought to inform and bolster one's sense of faith.

 

[ejvogie]

Seems like you got freaked out by the word "Christian" and it momentarily affected your reading comprehension. Christian figures have a rich history of critical thinking, studies in logic, reason, philosophy, sciences, etc. Thomas More, Galileo, Copernicus, Marconi, Riemann, Pasteur, Lister, Kelvin, Lemaitre, Thirring, just to list some of the more famous ones. Faith and science do not have to be at odds. The ideal is to have faith drive a rational understanding of the universe, and for rational thought to inform and bolster one's sense of faith.

Science explains the how, faith explains the why.

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[Lazerface]

Science explains the how, faith explains the why.

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HAHA

 

[wolfmandragon]

Except antibiotics usually cant get through the cyst layer. Lyme is extremely tough to get out of the system.

Even with antibiotics, oils and proteolytic enzymes may have to be used to even expose the little deamons.

Got to love those weapons research programs.....

 

[DG_player]

Got to love those weapons research programs.....

Gotta love those conspiracy theories.

 

[pearlybakerbest]

A few thing about permethrin since this has devolved into a tick thread. It is toxic to cats only in liquid form. Once it has dried, not a problem for your felines. Treatment to clothing will last the longest if the clothes are not washed (5 washes or so is the lifespan), same with just drying your clothes; tumbling action makes dried permethrin fall off. What I do is spray my bag and shoes once a month or after a wet round. I don't bother with my clothes as I simply throw them in the dryer once I get home from playing if I don't want to do a full wash. On a hotter setting the dryer will fry the bastards just as well as drowning em in the washer. Last thing, anyone who has to deal with these bugs regularly should do is get a supply of doxycycline and take two pills anytime you get bitten, especially if you show any rash. If your feel any symptoms keep taking the antibiotics for a few weeks. I have been bitten several times and even had the bullseye rash but with these steps have never tested positive for lyme.

 

[F. Howl]

The OP commented on Ricky looking sickly and weird, and I posted a video from 2012 where he looks pretty much the same. So... I think he's all good now. Do any of you follow him on the 'gram?

 

[knivvves]

The OP commented on Ricky looking sickly and weird, and I posted a video from 2012 where he looks pretty much the same. So... I think he's all good now. Do any of you follow him on the 'gram?

No but for anyone who does, or anyone who remembers - I'm curious when he first got bit. It feels like maybe 6 weeks ago?

 

[JC17393]

No but for anyone who does, or anyone who remembers - I'm curious when he first got bit. It feels like maybe 6 weeks ago?

Don't think he's ever said anything about when he was bitten or if he even knows, but the symptoms started hitting him at the Green Mountain Championships. Symptoms don't necessarily manifest immediately. He could have been bitten anywhere from a couple days before to a few weeks before.

 

[BuzzzChief]

Did he ever say that he actually tested positive for Lyme? I never saw that anywhere.

 

[ThrowBot]

Did he ever say that he actually tested positive for Lyme? I never saw that anywhere.

Lyme disease tests are not in the bible so he doesn't trust them.

 

[wolfmandragon]

Why are so many people being total asses here? Ricky may not be my favorite person in the world, but I sure the hell don't wish Lyme on anyone.

The human race disgusts me on some days.