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A question for the big guns

Jungle Tim

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When you throw your longest on the course, are you throwing flat, s-curves, hyzerflips, etc? Lets assume that the pin is 500ft away dead straight and flat with a massively wide open fairway and no wind.
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Jungle
 
If I have a lot of room like that I'll throw something high speed understable (beat pro Orc or beat X Avenger) and fast on a hyzer, aiming to the left of the basket. I'm aiming to get the disc to flip a little past flat so it makes a big, wide 'S' shot. I've measured a few ~420' shots like this. It's not a very reliable shot for me, but if it's open any errors won't have that big of an impact.

If I'm throwing a golf shot, I'd throw an X Avenger or beat DX Teebird (depending on the ceiling and whether or not I want a fade) with a hyzer to get it to flip to flat or slightly past. This is a much more accurate shot for me and it's what I'd probably do if my score mattered. I'd expect 360'-380' with this type of shot.
 
since my forehand wins - i'd go Destroyer - it goes straight and LONG - if huge flex doesnt matter id consider my Champ Orc
 
I throw side-arm and usually get the most distance out of my champ. roadrunner. I throw it with a good amount of hyzer and it flips flat then starts a huge s-curve. My farthest throw with it has been ~450ft., which I was very pleased with. Destroyers are great also but you have to snap the hell out of them or they will fade way to early. I've also had very good results with a beast. They don't turn over as easily as a roadrunner and get great distance while maintaining a slight s-curve.
 
The hyzer-flip is what I usually throw for distance, 360-380 ft on a good throw using a DX Destroyer, a Star/Champ Valk, or a DX Wraith. I usually flip it just past flat, hopefully anyway, with a nice slight s-curve before fading back.
 
In this scenario I will almost always throw a destroyer fast and flat which gives me a pretty big s-curve for the best distance. If there is much wind I would probably throw an excaliber flat and to the right. For me these will end up in the 400-450' range.
 
Long range turnover or roller with a sidewinder, depending on the condition of the ground. My range is 400-500' but not consistent distance or accuracy. I don't practice these much because I don't have many local courses requiring that type of shot.
 
Hyzerflip - word.

How do you guys typically execute this shot? How high and how far out does your disc trajectory apex tend to be?
 
Hyzerflip - word.

How do you guys typically execute this shot? How high and how far out does your disc trajectory apex tend to be?
I'm not a great judge of distance (my throws are measured on a football field) but I'd guess that the drives I'm talking about peak at 20'-25' for the distance shots and 15'-20' for the golf shots and hit that apex somewhere at 1/2-3/4 of the way out.
 
I have astigmatism, which has made it nearly impossible for me to judge distance. The apex is after the halfway point (1/2 -3/4 is accurate, I can't describe it any better) but it could be 10' high of 1,000' high for all I know.
 
i can't throw as far as these guys but i definitely get the most distance out of the hyzer flip s curve
 
Sorry to drag up an old post, however i thought it better than start another. Re-Use is better than recycle right!

Anyway.... I have been working on my distance, and specifically the hyzer flip shot, i find i can get my discs to flip flat fairly easily, but i cant get the disc to pull through the apex properly. I imagine that the discs should turn over and then sweep down for the final part, but mine just die a death. If i reduce the hyzer i end up flipping them over into rollers.....

are there any good videos or tips on how to execure the hyzer flip and the sorts of angles and heights one should be aiming for?
 
Sorry to drag up an old post, however i thought it better than start another. Re-Use is better than recycle right!

Anyway.... I have been working on my distance, and specifically the hyzer flip shot, i find i can get my discs to flip flat fairly easily, but i cant get the disc to pull through the apex properly. I imagine that the discs should turn over and then sweep down for the final part, but mine just die a death. If i reduce the hyzer i end up flipping them over into rollers.....

are there any good videos or tips on how to execure the hyzer flip and the sorts of angles and heights one should be aiming for?
Which discs are you using and how far are they going? The post about disc speed and ability might help out with disc selection for this shot.

I'm not 100% sure what's going on based on your description, but it might be a nose angle issue, too. You need nose down and power to get a disc to pan through the apex right. I find "workable" fairway drivers are the easiest discs to get this flight out of because of their lower power requirement, forgiveness when it comes to nose angle and natural tendency to come out of a turn well.
 
I throw the farthest and most accurate with a slight anhyzer about 20-25 feet off the ground with a Boss. Getting the full flight this will go over 450 but not quite 500. I have yet to break that barrier in the air. More or less I'm just setting the disc on a line in the air and throwing the disc at or above the cruising speed and the disc does all the work. The hyzer flip works too, for me it just doesn't go as far.
 
i don't throw nearly as far as others, but the longest drives that i ever throw are always flex shots (s-curves, around 350-375ft). i know there are a lot of variables (disc selection, speed, spin, etc...), but some of the longest drives i have ever thrown were with a DX Valkerie and a ProWraith. These are my go-to discs for my longest drives.
 
the closest distance betwwen point a and point b is a straight line a 350ft t-bird shot or 375ft starfire has alot better shot at being on the line and not waste power all that height and big turns is just wasted power with a tailwind that s turn is great more airtime and distance my longest drives have been s turns (Orc and wraith) but how much of that distance did i have to make up because i was off the line, if you can keep it lined up in the end then go for it as for me i gonna keep it low and tight and overstable
 
Wide open with no wind? Hyzer flip, Baby!

Hyzer-flip, for sure!

Even with wind...I just switch to a more stable disc. Now that the rust is coming off, I'm starting to get 425-450' on my better drives. Improving every week...love the FLX plastic!
 

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