rules dilemma

[art_vandelay]

When you choose to use a mini, do you place it in front of (closer to target) or behind the thrown disk?

 

[zenbot]

In front.

803.03 Marking the Lie

A. After each throw, the thrown disc must be left where it came to rest until the lie is established by the placing of a marker. This can be done by placing a mini marker disc on the playing surface between the hole and the disc, directly in line with the hole, on the line of play, touching the thrown disc. A player may instead choose, without touching or repositioning the thrown disc, to use the thrown disc as the marker. The marker may not be moved until the throw is released. A marker inadvertently moved prior to the throw shall be returned to its correct location.

 

[art_vandelay]

In front.

So you end up with the same line you need to stay behind whether you flip or use a mini. But it's the act of touching the disk that is the problem?

 

[zenbot]

So you end up with the same line you need to stay behind whether you flip or use a mini. But it's the act of touching the disk that is the problem?

When you say "touching the disc" are you talking about your foot touching it when you throw?

 

[art_vandelay]

When you say "touching the disc" are you talking about your foot touching it when you throw?

No I mean when you flip the disk, you've touched it. But it seems to me that if you put the mini in front of the disk that you create the same line you need to stay behind if you reach down and flip the disk, as long as you don't move it forward. Sorry to be a pest. I could go look up the rule too.

 

[mashnut]

So you end up with the same line you need to stay behind whether you flip or use a mini. But it's the act of touching the disk that is the problem?

Correct

When you say "touching the disc" are you talking about your foot touching it when you throw?

Doesn't matter, it's illegal either way.

 

[art_vandelay]

Correct



Doesn't matter, it's illegal either way.

Thanks mashnut. I may not be very good, but I'd rather do things the correct way to speed my progression out of noobie-hood.

 

[biodarwin]

No I mean when you flip the disk, you've touched it. But it seems to me that if you put the mini in front of the disk that you create the same line you need to stay behind if you reach down and flip the disk, as long as you don't move it forward. Sorry to be a pest. I could go look up the rule too.

There is no point of where the disc was when you flipped it. Maybe it scooted 1" closer to the hole. I believe this is the main reason why this is illegal now a days.

 

[zenbot]

No I mean when you flip the disk, you've touched it. But it seems to me that if you put the mini in front of the disk that you create the same line you need to stay behind if you reach down and flip the disk, as long as you don't move it forward. Sorry to be a pest. I could go look up the rule too.

Oh, I'm sorry. I missed the part where you said you flipped the disc. If you opt not to use a mini than you leave the disc alone.

 

[mashnut]

I just don't mark or flip on casual rounds, I rarely need to throw the same disc again so I just leave it and throw behind it. Even in tourneys, I tend to only mark inside the circle or when those 8ish inches make a difference on stance or the line I'm trying to hit. As long as you don't get in the disc flipping habit you'll be fine.

One thing I do see people doing is getting creative with their mini placement. If you do use a mini, make sure it goes directly in line with the basket, not off to the side of your disc.

 

[Steve West]

... I was in no danger of losing to him so I let it slide. ...

Somebody was in danger of losing to him. You owe that player an apology.

 

[art_vandelay]

Well it seems to me that you are usually better off using a mini then 'cause you get an extra 8 inches closer to the hole. I'll take anything I can get especially on a putt.

 

[zenbot]

Well it seems to me that you are usually better off using a mini then 'cause you get an extra 8 inches closer to the hole. I'll take anything I can get especially on a putt.

Most of the time. Sometimes if you're face first into an obstacle then you may want to opt not to use the mini.

 

[art_vandelay]

That's one of those things (to flip or not flip) that I'd never let bother me when friends do it during casual play, which is all I'm likely to ever do. I'm going to try to use the mini from now on just to get into the habit.

 

[zenbot]

That's one of those things (to flip or not flip) that I'd never let bother me when friends do it during casual play, which is all I'm likely to ever do. I'm going to try to use the mini from now on just to get into the habit.

I like to practice like I'm playing a tourney. It becomes part of your routine. It's better to not have to think about small details on the big day.

 

[jcf5083]

5. player card turned in well past the 25 minute limit

What did the guy with the card do during these 25 minutes?

 

[Cgkdisc]

The reason for disallowing flipping I've heard is some early competitors (1970s) took advantage of that before minis were required. Stories from some old timers indicated a few players made two or even three flips. This was especially easy after a roller shot lands upside down and you first flip it once so the top is showing. Then maybe a minute later after others have thrown you say, "Hey, looks like I didn't flip it yet."

 

[ArcheType]

makes sense. but, you could still get the first flip after throwing a roller today, if no one noticed.

 

[ArcheType]

maybe the pdga was trying to get more people to buy minis, to get kickbacks from discraft to make their pdga member minis cheaper.

the scandal!

 

[mashnut]

makes sense. but, you could still get the first flip after throwing a roller today, if no one noticed.

Yeah but you wouldn't think twice about someone flipping it back before that was a rule, now if you ever see someone flipping it you know something isn't right.