Disc and Ball on the same course?

[ralbrecht]

The local 9 hole golf course installed baskets and they're running disc and ball golf concurrently. Seems like a pretty cool idea. Anyone else seen this? The guy in the pro shop said some of the old timers were afraid the disc golfers would slow down play for them but I really can't see that happening.

If you're in the area come take a look.
http://www.seapinesgolfresort.com/
They don't have anything on the website yet but it's $6 for 9 or $10 for 18.

I'm playing early tomorrow so I'll report back and probably post up some pics too.

 

[Thomas437]

Sounds nice, theres a course around here that is on an old ball golf course. Im playing a tournament at a course thats setting up a temp course just for the event. Ive never heard of playing both types of golf at the same time however.

 

[crassostrea]

There is one in Myrtle Beach that is a 9 hole (par 3) with baskets as well. It was a little weird but a good use of space imo.

 

[kdankn]

im thinking about talking to the city i live in because there is a city owned par 3 ball golf course and i want to talk to them about installing baskets there as well

 

[MNcyclone]

For those of you with baskets on ball golf courses, how does this work? Do they keep the baskets away from the greens? I would imagine that discs would absolutely destroy greens.

 

[ralbrecht]

Yeah it looks like the baskets are just short and off to either the right or left of the greens.

The other thing I was wondering about was how the scoring is set up. The longest hole at the course is 369yd par 4. I'm wondering if they're going to just keep calling it a par 4 for DG too.

 

[wkelly42]

Yeah it looks like the baskets are just short and off to either the right or left of the greens.

The other thing I was wondering about was how the scoring is set up. The longest hole at the course is 369yd par 4. I'm wondering if they're going to just keep calling it a par 4 for DG too.

I'm thinking that a 1476 foot hole would probably be a par 5. IF they put the DG basket close to the green -- a lot of courses don't do that; you could put two decent DG holes on that one hole if you tried, depending on how the terrain is.

 

[Danger]

Prerube?

 

[scarpfish]

Some people are fans of this sort of thing. To me, its about as practical as multipurpose baseball/football stadiums.

 

[Jbowdown]

Steve West, a course designer in MN, was play-testing this idea last summer at 2 different Minneapolis par 3 golf courses. I had the opportunity to try it out and it wasn't so bad, playing at the same time as ball-golfers. As far as I know they might be putting permanent pins in this season. Steve designed some specific rules specifically for playing on a ball-golf course. For example, the putting green is out-of-bounds and if you walk across the putting green for any reason other than picking up a disc that landed inside you would be assessed a penalty stroke. A course rule made to protect the putting greens.

If Steve sees this forum thread he may chime in and give you more of an idea of what it takes to make both frolf and bolf co-exist together.

 

[Geaver]

Spring Valley in Spring Tx is on a nine hole ball golf course. It plays the NMR holes, and there are another 18 holes that surround the ball golf course. It was pretty cool. The one time I played it, I was sandwiched between two groups of ball golfers. I keep meaning to go back so I can throw frisbees while my dad hits golf balls.

 

[Sadjo]

There are several threads on this topic....all less than a year-old. Some under course design, some under general chat. It can work. Disc Golf players tend to play faster. Some of the basket are near greens, others are not.

 

[Danger]

I think disc golf on ball golf courses is the future of the sport. There is not a lot of room in big cities for new courses except on golf courses. The newest one in Southern California is one of the areas best courses (period, including regular courses).

Most of all, I think we should all appreciate the exclusivity:
Pay a few bucks for a tee time, and its a much more pleasurable experience.
You can generally play through when the situation warrants it.
There are no idiots skipping to hole 2 to start because of the line at the first tee.
There are no idiots skipping to hole 11 to start because of the line at tee 10.
There are no idiots starting on the back half to avoid the line at the first tee.
There are no (well, less) jackasses pissing on trees near the pin.
You are actually allowed to drink.
There is nobody walking their dog through the golf course.
The grass is manicured.
There is nobody cooking al pastor in the baskets.
There are no children playing on the baskets.
Morons who ace sign the basket are simply not allowed to return.
You can actually concentrate because there are no tdd's catching up to you because they have no concept of the game.

I could go on and on as to why these courses NEED TO EXIST.

There are plenty of golf courses that have wooded areas that are conducive to descent disc golf. Some ball golf courses even have LIGHTS. Most of the courses with LIGHTS in southern california have shotty lighting at best, its still not all that easy to find your disc. The golf course with lights out in Riverside is TRULY a lit course.

As far as ball golfers and disc golfers getting along, well, it may take some time but everybody will have to get used to it. I actually think disc golfers can use the environment to mature a little bit, and gain some respect from the golf community.

As angry as my posts sometimes come off, I guess I am just kind of passionate about my thoughts. I am not angry!

 

[thrembo]

I disagree. We had one down here for awhile in Sarasota but it didn't work. The holes were way too long for the average player, mostly just long and open. No great shot variety.

What we do need is more pay to play disc glof courses. Ball golf has always looked down on us, shunned us, and dismissed us. Why would we want anything to do with them? I say we proceed without them!

 

[klay]

Its not a permanent course or anything but there is an event in Wisconsin called the Tyranena Golf Challenge where they put disc baskets on a ball golf course and then DGers and ball golfers go head to head and see which discipline comes out on top.

From the linked web site:

This is an 18-hole bring your own partner doubles event where disc golfers and traditional ball golfers go head-to-head to see who can take home the trophy and earn bragging rights for their sport. Disc golf baskets are set up beside the greens of the course to make the par even for both styles of golf. Entry gets you and your partner a cart for the tournament.

And some promise for the future:

The Lake Mills Golf Club is seriously considering permanent installation of 18 disc golf baskets. This could be huge for the sport as an introduction to bigger sponsorship opportunities and more clout in main stream sports. Please consider playing and supporting this great event!

Looks pretty cool. Wish I still lived there.

 

[ralbrecht]

Well it was interesting for sure.
I made it out today and was pretty stoked to try the new course. Wow it's long...... There aren't too many obstacles but the course makes up for it in sheer length. Two par 4s and a par 5 that goes over a lake. I played like crap but it was generally pretty fun. Now I really know I need to work on my distance. :wall:

details on the course here:
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=4479

 

[Danger]

I don't think every ball golf course is good for disc golf, but there are more than a handful that would be fantastic! Here are a couple that work, here in Cali:

Center City at Goat Hill
Sun Valley

This one used to work, but they redesigned it and now it sucks. It does, however, have lights, so if you are down for some safari you can play till 10.

Van Buuren Golf Center

 

[superium]

I just dont see ball courses making money off of it. The average disc golfer most likely wouldnt pay $10+ a round on a constant basis and they might lose business from ball golfers not wanting to play there.

 

[Emoney]

We have one near me. Its in warsaw, little big horn. It is a ball golf course and they added a disc golf course on the side of the course where it doesnt interfere with the ball golfers. U can rent golf carts to disc golf also. The disc course isnt that great and i havnt yet played the ball golf. But it would be a great place for a best shot tourney with 1 round ball and 1 round disc

 

[RussMB]

I realize Tupelo (Myrtle Beach) has been brought up. I think it would only work, if it's going to be installed on a golf course, would be for the par 3's. It's not so much about what we wouldn't do, in as much as it would be the Ball Golfers complaining about it. Here is the example.

Harbor View Golf complex in Little River (Northern part of the Myrtle Beach area). It is owned by the same company that owns Tupelo Bay. The Rich people that were paying 3x's the green fees as the disc golfers got the final say. The golfers didn't like Disc Golfers on the course. (That is what the people at the course told me, when I called and asked them about it.) A small town golf course, maybe. But the Golf Courses aren't going to give up their bread and butter for Disc Golf. In order for them to have the tournament on the Tupelo Bay Executive course, the players had to pay $100+ entry fee. ...and hold it during off season. It's a nice thought, but I don't see Golf Courses adding DG. I've talked to a couple of the course managers here in Myrtle Beach about it, and it was nothing less than a "Yeah, that's not going to happen!" The condescending smirk let me know that that conversation was over.