august dupree
Double Eagle Member
I'm pulling for Nikko. There, I said it.
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I'm pulling for Nikko. There, I said it.
You're not paying attention. The spotter may just be a boy scout who's never played disc golf and doesn't know the RULES. How can he tell anyone about anything illegal if he doesn't know the rules?
I was a spotter once on Hole 1 and The Memorial after my round. Nobody asked me who I was or if I played... they just came up to me in the crowd and said, " You wanna spot discs on this hole and mark where they go in the water?"
That's how many folks become spotters, so the only words I every expect to hear from a spotter is, "Your disc is over there" or "It crossed the line here." Other than that, they should be silent.
Yes, isn't the point of a spotter to tell the player where his disc crossed out of bounds? Even in your example, the spotter is telling you where you should play from.
In this case, if the spotter has flags, they should be tall ones used to mark where the disc actually lands in the OB area so the player can find it rather than on the edge of the island where the disc passed over it.
I heard an email was sent out to the players about this hole. Would anyone care to post it if they have it?
No... he's not telling you where to play from. He's telling you where your disc crossed. Then you and your card mates decide based on the rules where to play from.
The problem here is the caddy book provided wasn't consulted. Shame on the player.
I'm pulling for Nikko. There, I said it.
I was impressed with Nikko's play yesterday. Unfortunate break on 17 for him. Otherwise, his putting was really solid, which has been a point of frustration for him over the last few years.
Nope... spotter may know NOTHING about the rules and generally don't. They are just volunteers who watch plastic fly.
Yes, he's telling you where you were last in bounds. The book says to play from where you were LAST in bounds then contradicts itself by saying you can't play from where you were last in bounds. Technically since there's no place McBeth was last in bounds that is playable, he should probably have to rethrow. But mandatory rethrow is not allowed without a waiver by the PDGA. The caddybook should prescribe where you play from and this caddybook did not clearly do that.
Shame on the player? This is shame on the tournament director for a poor wording of the rules and the PDGA for not reviewing the rules prior to the tournament. The fact that no one noticed for 24 hours proves how confusing the rule book was. The PDGA created this problem by banning stroke and distance after Ledgestone. I've been to at least 5 tournaments this year that did not follow the new stroke and distance rule from the PDGA and I've seen numerous disagreements among tournament directors regarding the rule.
The bolded is untrue.
If in the attached graphic, the blue X is where Paul threw from and the blue line is the path his disc took, then the black X is where he should have played his next shot from by the rules dictated in the caddy book.
Yes, shame on the player. These caddy books were made available to ALL players. There was a players meeting in which I guarantee they had a period of Q&A to clarify anything that needed clarifying. If the wording in the book was confusing and contradictory, then someone should have brought it up at the player's meeting for clarification. That it wasn't (I assume, maybe it was) indicates to me that those who read it understood it and those that didn't read it couldn't be confused by it.