Delaware Disc Golf Challenge

[runningoz]

So about these next day videos?

 

[brutalbrutus]

So about these next day videos?

Made it with 5min to spare...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNF7VlmuUNs

 

[Jolt]

NOT a good day for Paige B. . only two people in the entire field have a worse score than Paige

 

[bobmcnelly]

McBeth and Ricky are a week late for this battle.

 

[Cgkdisc]

Hole 17 could make the difference.

 

[bobmcnelly]

Eagle goes bogey free for the entire tournament on a very difficult course.

 

[dreadlock86]

Every year or so when this discussion occurs and the idea that there's no way a player that wants to inflate his rating should play Iron Hill tourneys -- there's no "1100" at Iron Hill due to the compression factor.

I'm not sure I've ever asked you Chuck what would it take to adjust the ratings systems so that the ratings at Iron Hill are in line with the majority of tournaments?

Just curious -- even though if the trees keep falling/trimmed at Iron Hill nature and disc golfers will take care of this conundrum on their own given time . . . .

? 4 strokes better -- fine. That makes him -15. Can he get -19 to be a 1100 round?

why is the assumption that one ought to be able to shoot 1100 on any course? that makes less sense than the ratings formula

 

[paulw]

why is the assumption that one ought to be able to shoot 1100 on any course? that makes less sense than the ratings formula

Because the best round ever should be the highest-rated round ever no matter where it's shot . . .. or was the question rhetorical?

 

[Cgkdisc]

Because the best round ever should be the highest-rated round ever no matter where it's shot . . .. or was the question rhetorical?

Nope. The best round ever has more to do with subjective evaluation of the performance with stats narrowing the field of rounds to consider. For example, if McBeth injures his right arm and shoots a 1095 round left-handed with only lefty turbo putts, there's a real good chance people observing that would consider it the best round of all time.

 

[AHagglund]

The whole point of having the round rating system is to standardize scores on different courses. It seems like it breaks down when comparing courses of different pars.

 

[Jolt]

So in 54 holes, McBeth shot 38 birdies . . nice .. all rounds above his raiting, but not by much

 

[lenfantsuave]

Because the best round ever should be the highest-rated round ever no matter where it's shot . . .. or was the question rhetorical?

But that assumes that the best round ever on any given course is going to be something super highly rated.

Either that or the "best round ever" might be something that is only attainable through throw ins. Let's take a course that maybe has a bunch of tweeners. You're going to get a whole lot of birdies, but rarely any eagles and definitely less scoring separation. On a course like that it's going to be hard for someone with even an amazing skill set like Paul to separate himself from the field.

 

[paulw]

But that assumes that the best round ever on any given course is going to be something super highly rated.

Either that or the "best round ever" might be something that is only attainable through throw ins. Let's take a course that maybe has a bunch of tweeners. You're going to get a whole lot of birdies, but rarely any eagles and definitely less scoring separation. On a course like that it's going to be hard for someone with even an amazing skill set like Paul to separate himself from the field.

We're not talking about the same thing. Par/scoring separation/etc have no bearing on whether a round is rated highly or not.

My yearly bone of contention is that the ratings formulae exclude Iron Hill from reflecting the excellence of play the way other courses do. No one's going to ooh and aah over the best golfers shooting 1060 since they do that regularly.

 

[bwgort]

We're not talking about the same thing. Par/scoring separation/etc have no bearing on whether a round is rated highly or not.

My yearly bone of contention is that the ratings formulae exclude Iron Hill from reflecting the excellence of play the way other courses do. No one's going to ooh and aah over the best golfers shooting 1060 since they do that regularly.

The jackson course at the IDGC has the same problem. Let's not pretend this is limited to one course.

 

[Cgkdisc]

Here are some record scores and ratings on wooded courses that played slightly tougher than Iron Hill and in the same course SSA category.

Score Rating SSA Year Player Course
56 1078 69.8 2010 Ken Climo, Hornet's Nest Web
58 1073 70.2 2008 Brian Schweberger, Renny Gold
58 1067 69.8 2010 Nikko Locastro, Hornet's Nest Web
58 1067 70.0 2008 Avery Jenkins, Idlewild
58 1062 68.3 2018 Paul McBeth, Iron Hill

 

[bwgort]

Here are some record scores and ratings on wooded courses that played slightly tougher than Iron Hill and in the same course SSA category.

Score Rating SSA Year Player Course
56 1078 69.8 2010 Ken Climo, Hornet's Nest Web
58 1073 70.2 2008 Brian Schweberger, Renny Gold
58 1067 69.8 2010 Nikko Locastro, Hornet's Nest Web
58 1067 70.0 2008 Avery Jenkins, Idlewild
58 1062 68.3 2018 Paul McBeth, Iron Hill

What's the highest rated round thrown on the old Jackson layout? I think champ shot 54 or 55 one year.

 

[Cgkdisc]

McBeth shot 54 at the HOF last year rated 1073 at SSA of 64.8 on Jackson.

 

[T-Rey]

To find the best round, just use strokes below SSA.

 

[brutalbrutus]

2nd round vids are up...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Eaym6ug2P8

 

[Cgkdisc]

To find the best round, just use strokes below SSA.

Throws below SSA doesn't work except for courses within a small SSA range like the examples posted above. Rating points per throw increases as SSA decreases so you have to decide where to make SSA breaks to bundle courses together for stats comparisons. 15 under will always have a higher rating on a lower SSA course than higher SSA course. It's a natural law we discovered with the ratings process, not a factor we fabricated.