18 years.
you sitting on a stock pile of them
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18 years.
My stockpile is shattered into pieces.you sitting on a stock pile of them
"Fingerprinty" is an understatement. I have to wipe my hands off after I throw it.
I just gave the last "appoved" Qmega I had to my daughter to break; she needed something she could tape a light to for glow golf. She stopped using it because it leeches so many oils that the tape falls off 1/2 through the round. :\I have a Cam Todd CE teebird that is exactly like this. It's almost like it's covered in a layer of glue. The disc has turned brown at this point. I'm too terrified to throw it because I know it'll break. I feel like some of my early star plastic is right in the fingerprinty sweet spot at the moment. All my pre 2010ish champ is getting overly fingerprinty as well. It's a hard life when you covet your old plastic but become too scared to actually throw it. Good on you for shattering a whole stock pile. I love it.
The ideal way to do it is to find your favorite overstable molds, and cycle them over long periods of time. That way you minimize the molds in your bag, so you're most confident with disc selection and grip.
Every manufacturer has an ultra durable translucent plastic that is usually their most durable plastic, and beats in slower than their grippy premium opaque plastic. Sometimes Innova champion molds take multiple years before you notice a noticeable change.
Sry folks, it is Quantum 1.6 and it feels like it has real weight in the flight plate, which seems to be common to some of my more OS discs. (Still learning about the plastic and I get it wrong sometimes.)
Not sure if this is a 1.6, but this is the most recent run of QOLF that I have. This thing is unbelievably stable, like almost a Firebird. I bet it would take at least a couple years of regular use to get anywhere close to flippy. You could grab a roadrunner and have a pretty sweet 9 speed combo going on
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I love the back story to the disc, but this one is UGLY. Definitely a thrower. You can barely even tell what the stamp used to say. PM me your address and I'll mail it to you. I'd be honored if you would shatter it for me. Much better than it sitting in my closet collecting fingerprints.EDIT: I probably wouldn't if I had a Cam Todd TeeBird, though. Some disc are cool enough to hang onto.
Just for the sake of talking about both sides of the cycling coin. I have NO interest in cycling. Even with changes in my throw, technique and age. I want premium, new plastic and playing tournaments generally provides plenty of opportunity.
I have no interest in losing the "perfectly seasoned ROC". I have not interest in carrying three of them to cover stages of wear and having a back up, breaking in.
I have an OOP Z Nebula sitting in the bag right now. It is a straight and tasty piece of plastic after a couple years of work. If I need a new tasty piece of straight plastic, I will replace it with a new Buzzz SS and put a new Nebula in the bag. I will give away the Nebula to a noob in my league this spring. I have a new Buzzz SS that is already covering its old slot.
No matter what you want a disc to do....today, there is a sweet disc/mold/plastic that will do exactly what you want. Back when we only had a few dozen choices, cycling was perhaps more important.
Just a matter of philosophy and choice.
All I can say is that I've over time I've taken strokes off my rounds just from simplifying my bags and minimizing the molds I have in them. That way there's less confusion over what disc to use for what scenario I want to use them in. 90% of pros follow this same approach as well when they build their bags-- especially for distance drivers.
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....... if ever-- lose my discs (not much water around me), so I don't go through the severe pain of losing a perfectly seasoned long term project. If that were more of a threat, I would definitely take to long term cycling less.
ive never had a disc live its full life span
ive never had a disc live its full life span
From what I can tell, the cheaper the plastic the better it will age on the shelf. Old base plastics don't leech oils. It will get more brittle and will break more easily, but it does't have the obvious signs of breaking down and won't feel gross in your hand like CE or Pro or Champ will when it gets 15 years old.I've got my old set from 83-84 (one's not in the lake) and none are sticky. Maybe that's a champ thing, IDK
Actually no. The LSS beats out of the disc first, so generally what happens to me when cycling is that an OS disc beats into straight and then the next OS one beats straight before the HSS beats out of the first one. I have shelves and shelves of beat into the sweet spot stable discs. It takes so much longer for me to beat a disc understable than it does to beat one stable that there is always a backlog of seasoned discs that I have no spot for in my bag. Once I do have a spot, there will be so many to choose from that some just are never going to make it back in.
It's also something that really only applies to OS discs. Cycling really only works if the discs start out OS, so those were the discs I was talking about.It's interesting that you've found the LSS beats out first. I think some discs do that while others (mainly high speed drivers now that I think about it) tend to lose their high speed stability but keep their fade. Why that happens I really don't know, and I've got a pretty small sample size, but that is what it seems like happens with faster discs. Slower discs I'd tend to agree that they tend to lose their fade as a general rule though
When you start beating in a Katana, God only knows what happens. Rollers. Rollers happen. :|