HardstyleBeast
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Never played one but it looks like fun.
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all the challenge and none of the lost disc
whats not to love
for those who 's argument is gimmicky or contrived I would add your salty cause you stink at placement golf
Overall, I'm not a fan, unless the hole is without the rule exceptions. To FORCE all OB shots to a drop zone and not allow the thrower all three options in the rule book, even if you land inbounds and roll or skip OB is not the spirit of the rules of disc golf. Now I know the TD can call it however he/she sees fit (supposedly with approval of the tour manager for sanctioned events) but in answer to the OP question I don't like them. There's too many different interpretations of an "island" hole for me. [note: no such thing exists in the rule book.] Any time I've been at a player's meeting and the TD says "hole # such-and-such plays like an 'island'," I immediately ask him to clarify what he means.
I say this because at one tournament the hole in question was like the OP's -- not a true island defined by water or concrete or definitive OB, but on dry, accessible land with marked OB lines. On this hole, I played a smooth skip hyzer and my shot ended up in the "island" 20 ft from the basket. One of the locals on my card argued me down that I was OB because "they always play" that the shot has to hit inside the "island" and remain in the "island" to be safe. He said, they play it just like the OB was water. To which I replied, "I guess then none of you locals have ever seen someone skip a disc off water. Just because that's played like water doesn't mean I can't skip it." They insisted that was the rule -- I insisted on a provisional, and after the round the TD ruled me OB and the 4p was the one that was counted rather than the 2. Since that time I've had a really negative feeling about "island"-STYLE hole design.
Overall, I'm not a fan, unless the hole is without the rule exceptions. To FORCE all OB shots to a drop zone and not allow the thrower all three options in the rule book, even if you land inbounds and roll or skip OB is not the spirit of the rules of disc golf. Now I know the TD can call it however he/she sees fit (supposedly with approval of the tour manager for sanctioned events) but in answer to the OP question I don't like them. There's too many different interpretations of an "island" hole for me. [note: no such thing exists in the rule book.] Any time I've been at a player's meeting and the TD says "hole # such-and-such plays like an 'island'," I immediately ask him to clarify what he means.
I say this because at one tournament the hole in question was like the OP's -- not a true island defined by water or concrete or definitive OB, but on dry, accessible land with marked OB lines. On this hole, I played a smooth skip hyzer and my shot ended up in the "island" 20 ft from the basket. One of the locals on my card argued me down that I was OB because "they always play" that the shot has to hit inside the "island" and remain in the "island" to be safe. He said, they play it just like the OB was water. To which I replied, "I guess then none of you locals have ever seen someone skip a disc off water. Just because that's played like water doesn't mean I can't skip it." They insisted that was the rule -- I insisted on a provisional, and after the round the TD ruled me OB and the 4p was the one that was counted rather than the 2. Since that time I've had a really negative feeling about "island"-STYLE hole design.
Natural island holes I would play and take seriously just simply out of fear of losing discs. That being said, man made ones with rocks or some other type of barrier would depend on the setting. In competition I would take is serious and actually try to play it smart. Otherwise I have a tendency to try to make a mockery of such a circumstance and throw a skip shot (fh or bh doesnt matter) or a roller at it just to make a point that it doesn't matter how you get it to the island as long as you do.
That sucks.
It's an argument for written ground rules, which should be standard at all tournaments. It's also a long way from just restricting re-throws to drop zones---it's creating a novel concept that what the disc touches in flight matters, not just where it flies or where it comes to rest.
It still comes back to well-designed vs. poorly-designed. I can think of some island holes that only play well with a mandated drop zone.
Overall, I'm not a fan, unless the hole is without the rule exceptions. To FORCE all OB shots to a drop zone and not allow the thrower all three options in the rule book, even if you land inbounds and roll or skip OB is not the spirit of the rules of disc golf. Now I know the TD can call it however he/she sees fit (supposedly with approval of the tour manager for sanctioned events) but in answer to the OP question I don't like them. There's too many different interpretations of an "island" hole for me. [note: no such thing exists in the rule book.] Any time I've been at a player's meeting and the TD says "hole # such-and-such plays like an 'island'," I immediately ask him to clarify what he means.
I say this because at one tournament the hole in question was like the OP's -- not a true island defined by water or concrete or definitive OB, but on dry, accessible land with marked OB lines. On this hole, I played a smooth skip hyzer and my shot ended up in the "island" 20 ft from the basket. One of the locals on my card argued me down that I was OB because "they always play" that the shot has to hit inside the "island" and remain in the "island" to be safe. He said, they play it just like the OB was water. To which I replied, "I guess then none of you locals have ever seen someone skip a disc off water. Just because that's played like water doesn't mean I can't skip it." They insisted that was the rule -- I insisted on a provisional, and after the round the TD ruled me OB and the 4p was the one that was counted rather than the 2. Since that time I've had a really negative feeling about "island"-STYLE hole design.