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How to Confront a Pay to Play Abuser?
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A sticky wicket to be sure.
I sense that you fear reprisals for harsh treatment of this individual, and it's wise to think through your strategy before acting.
The 'official' remedies are plain and you can always avail yourself of them, but I'm wondering if there's any way for you to get this guy on your side. Maybe if you knew more about his motivations and current situation, you could talk to him 'like a man' explaining your position and the impact his behavior has on your facility. Maybe he has a needful service or skill, which he might trade for golfing privileges?
My point is that even if dude turns out to be a bit 'cheesy', it might be better that he's your friend, rather than someone angered by alienation (even if it's his own fault)...and in the event you must deal with the authorities, the more you know about dude (like if he's the state senator's son...), the stronger your hand.
for what it's worth...
I sense that you fear reprisals for harsh treatment of this individual, and it's wise to think through your strategy before acting.
The 'official' remedies are plain and you can always avail yourself of them, but I'm wondering if there's any way for you to get this guy on your side. Maybe if you knew more about his motivations and current situation, you could talk to him 'like a man' explaining your position and the impact his behavior has on your facility. Maybe he has a needful service or skill, which he might trade for golfing privileges?
My point is that even if dude turns out to be a bit 'cheesy', it might be better that he's your friend, rather than someone angered by alienation (even if it's his own fault)...and in the event you must deal with the authorities, the more you know about dude (like if he's the state senator's son...), the stronger your hand.
for what it's worth...
ThomasOrion
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that.....actually is a good idea.
I would also make a nice sign / poster that in a NICE way encourages people to pay, lay on a little guilt trip
but really explain WHY its pay to play and the work that goes into it and why its PAY....also , encourage Season pass, and maybe drop season pass to 40 or 35, that will make it easier for people to buy that than thinking "Well I only play here 3-5 times" If its 50, I don't pay a season pass unless I know I play the course at least a dozen times....There are 3 courses here that share a season pass which is nice, but I buy it every year and end up only playing like 4-5 times tops, and its a $40 pass, so that shy's me away.TheBogeyMan
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Do you pay state and federal taxes on the DG course revenue? If not you are running an illegal business and the most you could possibly ask of someone is a donation.
Not if expenses exceed income.
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I can almost guarantee there is a profit being made. I am not hating on the course, but to take legal action against a non-paying player could open a can of worms.
tbird888
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How can you "almost" guarantee a profit's being made?
Most likely from never having run a business and especially a p2p disc golf course.
Shush, guys. He got my attention. If there's a profit being made, I want to know how.
You clearly have no idea how any business is run, much less a private disc golf course.
What does that have to do with anything?
He has every right to set whatever rules regarding his property and seeking legal action such as booting someone from the property will not open any cans of worms.
I can almost guarantee it.
You, and every other private course owner.
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LOL.
joecoin
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So this guy plays the course regularly. He probably talks to other players, maybe even plays full rounds with others. Sooner or later, those other players are gonna figure out this guy aint paying. What do you suppose is gonna happen next?
"Hey, I know how to sneak into the movie theater, I do it 5 times a week. Want me to show you how?"
Got to get rid of the thief, and soon.
"Hey, I know how to sneak into the movie theater, I do it 5 times a week. Want me to show you how?"
Got to get rid of the thief, and soon.
Well, I have a tender heart for private pay to play courses. I cut my teeth on one and it really got me into the game.
At the time I was young and broke. Couldn't afford to pay. So the owner offered a work for play option.
You could potentially turn this customer into an asset or liability. Honestly, I would confront him straight up and talk about options.
Running people off is not a generally not a good business philosophy. Yeah the guy sounds like a dirt bag but you never know, he might have a good story and be willing to work with you.
At the time I was young and broke. Couldn't afford to pay. So the owner offered a work for play option.
You could potentially turn this customer into an asset or liability. Honestly, I would confront him straight up and talk about options.
Running people off is not a generally not a good business philosophy. Yeah the guy sounds like a dirt bag but you never know, he might have a good story and be willing to work with you.
If you knew where he lived, you could pitch a tent in his front yard. If he says anything, just say that you are camping. I will now try to think of way to get your point across without trespassing.
Dancing girls?
How feasible is it for the OP to put in a moat? If it'll keep the black knight at bay, it should work for the freeloaders.
I actually like the trail cam idea. Get a good face shot and slap his mug on the "Board of Shame," a kiosk at the entrance that displays serial abusers where the only way to get off is by paying the fee. Have fun with it. :thmbup:
i say bring it back to wild west days and shoot him or at him anyway...
Hampstead
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Trained hawks. Problem solved.
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