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Wtg Jennifer..!
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This is what a lot of people are tired of.
I would have a serious problem with a ringer playing against my sister's basketball and softball teams in the special olympics.
So good luck shutting us men up about the trans in female divisions. (I refuse to use that cis- garbage).
The PDGA has lost so much credibility the last few years, and that organization is just too far gone. It all started with the unnecessary rule changes that just muddied it up for most players. In the engineering world, we call it the K.I.S.S. method. Keep it simple. The PDGA can't comprehend that while trying to please too many people (Really going out of their way to please a group of people that may be less than 1%. I'd love to see Southern Nationals or a new sanctioning body develop.
I'm enjoying my popcorn watching this all play out.
So edgy.
Not sure what the WPGA is. If you mean the LPGA their membership voted in 2010 to allow trans players but none have managed to qualify for a Tour Card as of yet.
wikipedia said:in 2006, after her gender reassignment, she decided to compete professionally.[2] In 2007, Lawless competed in her first world championship, and returned in 2008 where she won the championship in long-drive golf.[4]
In 2010, Lawless filed a lawsuit against the LPGA for her right to compete as a woman in the world championship. The LPGA had a requirement that athletes must be "female at birth" in order to compete. As a transgender athlete, this meant she would have been ineligible to compete. Lawless argued that this requirement violated California's civil rights law and that transsexual competitors should be allowed to compete as the gender that they identify with.[1] She not only sued the LPGA but also sued Long Drivers of America, two of their sponsors and LPGA's sponsors.[3] Ultimately, Lawless won the lawsuit, and as a result the LPGA reviewed its requirement of having to be born female in order to compete and removed it.
I think I may have to quibble with the bolded part. My 5 minute google search turned up that the LPGA players voted in 2010 to remove the ban while the suit was pending, and the suit later settled without the LPGA admitting to breaking any laws. So I think the bolded part is misleading.wikipedia said:in 2006, after her gender reassignment, she decided to compete professionally.[2] In 2007, Lawless competed in her first world championship, and returned in 2008 where she won the championship in long-drive golf.[4]
In 2010, Lawless filed a lawsuit against the LPGA for her right to compete as a woman in the world championship. The LPGA had a requirement that athletes must be "female at birth" in order to compete. As a transgender athlete, this meant she would have been ineligible to compete. Lawless argued that this requirement violated California's civil rights law and that transsexual competitors should be allowed to compete as the gender that they identify with.[1] She not only sued the LPGA but also sued Long Drivers of America, two of their sponsors and LPGA's sponsors.[3] Ultimately, Lawless won the lawsuit, and as a result the LPGA reviewed its requirement of having to be born female in order to compete and removed it.
Oh look, the transphobes logged back in…goodie. :|
And old words get re-defined.
For better and worse.
A word's presence in the dictionary doesn't indicate that the word is true or accurate, it merely means that it's use is widespread enough to give people a place to find it's definition.
Dragon is in the dictionary, as is unicorn.
The dictionary definitions of those terms say "mythical." It's misleading to imply that the existence of an dictionary entry for a mythical creature is a representation that the creature exists or ever existed.
Your statements about the PDGA couldn't be further from the truth. The rank and file membership truly doesn't think like you. Even if they agree with you regarding transgender participants, they don't think like you. The PDGA is doing just fine, and hasn't lost credibility - and if anything has gained strength in recent years.I would have a serious problem with a ringer playing against my sister's basketball and softball teams in the special olympics.
So good luck shutting us men up about the trans in female divisions. (I refuse to use that cis- garbage).
The PDGA has lost so much credibility the last few years, and that organization is just too far gone. It all started with the unnecessary rule changes that just muddied it up for most players. In the engineering world, we call it the K.I.S.S. method. Keep it simple. The PDGA can't comprehend that while trying to please too many people (Really going out of their way to please a group of people that may be less than 1%. I'd love to see Southern Nationals or a new sanctioning body develop.
I'm enjoying my popcorn watching this all play out.
Wtg Jennifer..!
I found this interesting.
Also talks about sending lab tests (so some proof, which seems quite contrary to the PDGA stance).
Yep, I meant LPGA. Good catch. Also, I remember when the LPGA decided to ban transwomen in 2008 after Lana Lawless won the long-drive championship, but I did not know they changed the rule in 2010 to allow transwomen to compete. But more to the point of the original discussion about potential lawsuits, they changed that rule in 2010 because Ms Lawless won a discrimination lawsuit against them!
How is that different from the PDGA stance, that specifically speaks of needing to provide 3+ qualifying lab tests ( w/r/t testosterone levels be belowe 10 nmol/L ) ?