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.... "At the same time, we don't want to squelch their personalities or force them to be someone they're not."
Seems like they are not too strict given the statement and then contradiction
It's an unpopular take because it ignores many, many facts. Rather than cite them here I'd encourage you just to peruse the PDGA's reports...and keep in mind the PDGA membership is a small subset of the larger player base.
Your platform is based entirely upon conjecture, and while it's fine to have that opinion, you need to understand that it's a specific slant on the state of the game, not even-handed pragmatism
Who cares if disc golfers don't make tens of millions, the top earners on tour are getting closer to the US median income without factoring endorsements (only tourney purses), and a handful of pros are earning six figures in total already. My generation and those younger don't really care as much about that status symbol though. The success of this game is sewn in with the cultural zeitgeist as much as it is the merits of the game itself.
Will it one day fall again? Absolutely. There are plenty of examples - bowling, golf, etc. but to pretend that something isn't happening because you don't want it to...I just don't get that mentality.
You are correct, JT. My take is conjecture, but based on my involvement in other niche sports and involvement in this game for over three decades. In the last 17 years, since my joining the PDGA, there have been about 100,000 new members. Assuming they all have continued to play, I don't call that significant growth. Agree that this only represents a fraction of the new players. I am not even belittling this growth, but it is tiny potatoes in comparison to a plethora of other niche sports. Nobody loves the game more than me, but to think it has a big stage future seems myopic. Assuming that was your stance.
For the record, I never said I did not want to see the game explode....just that I don't think that is the future.
Well I think that's where we're talking past each other. Maybe at one time years back I thought we'd be on ESPN next to the NBA and all that, but I don't think that's our path.
However, I don't think it's a I/O "ESPN or frisbees in the woods" scenario either. I think niche is the new mainstream. Craft beer, small-menu restaurants, disposable income going towards experiences over objects, niche sports, DIY weddings, etc. This may seem like an eclectic list, but just some examples that I've noticed (or lived) which illustrates how Millennials and GenZ are switching the style up.
I'm seeing big companies completely change their advertising paradigms to individually target smaller groups/communities. Dying is the "lowest common denominator" method, now it's about resonating with uniqueness. All of this is a big benefit to disc golf.
I am not trying to be obtuse, just pragmatic. I honestly believe that this sport will never be big. It is not really good for viewing or spectating. It is unheard of by most of the world and will never be more than a niche sport.....behind activities like bike riding, running, badminton, or horseshoes. You can find videos of top professional competitions in all of the above, but they will never ascend to being anything more than low income touring jobs. It might be an unpopular take, but I have always seen it this way.
Wow. 300 grand for a game that reminds me of netting Butterflies? Dude is living the dream.
That's the thing about sports that become popular in India and Southeast Asia, there are a whole lot of people in that part of the world...Lots of eyes turns into lots of sponsor money...
Now all we need is DG to get popular in southeast Asia. Can you imagine some of the courses you could build in those jungles...
I assume he's referring to Ledgestone 2015 Final 9. Link goes to the worst of it. In JohnE's defense, this hole was a disaster of a bad design and has since been taken out of the course, I believe.
I am not trying to be obtuse, just pragmatic. I honestly believe that this sport will never be big. It is not really good for viewing or spectating. It is unheard of by most of the world and will never be more than a niche sport.....behind activities like bike riding, running, badminton, or horseshoes. You can find videos of top professional competitions in all of the above, but they will never ascend to being anything more than low income touring jobs. It might be an unpopular take, but I have always seen it this way.
But, I do believe that the sport will continue to see nice slow steady increases in casual players.
... i honestly don't know what was worse; the poor girl caught on camera missing the garbage can at two feet with her water bottle, or...
Wow. 300 grand for a game that reminds me of netting Butterflies? Dude is living the dream.
Turtlecreek is no more...
That's the thing about sports that become popular in India and Southeast Asia, there are a whole lot of people in that part of the world...Lots of eyes turns into lots of sponsor money...
Now all we need is DG to get popular in southeast Asia. Can you imagine some of the courses you could build in those jungles...
timg would have to add a course Death Wish List feature, and we would have a thread titled, Beware the hole on 8, I stuck a King Cobra in it. opcorn:That would open up the door for the 1st course ever to have a "Beware of Tigers" sign. :clap:
timg would have to add a course Death Wish List feature, and we would have a thread titled, Beware the hole on 8, I stuck a King Cobra in it. opcorn: