Im doing my best to keep nevin long. The best thing about it was that it was developed in its "almost" longest configuration from the start. The worst thing that could happen layout wise (save some odd utilities project) is short teepads which I am totally against.
Web: people loved the nest so much that it wasnt played a lot and so foot traffic did not do the maintenance work that it does elsewhere. Hopefully the new layout eliminates this problem...although you will still have a par 5 #3 and a par 3 # 3 going different directions to the same basket.
Renny simply suffers from the ambitions of a group of really great hard working guys. They put so much effort into making it unbelievable (retaining walls, bridges, stairs, towers, etc, that we are coming up on the time to replace and repair and it is very difficult to imagine accomplishing it. Those guys arent as young and motivated anymore. The work that I put into Nevin, I dont think that I could do again without mechanical or a large labor pool. Jeez Robbins was hard enough.