Hi, this is the bag I've been using for over a year now, I've had some discs that have rotated in and out, but I'll post the core of my bag and then list some of the discs that I have used on occasion for different courses.
I throw between 325-360, depending on how well I'm actually playing. Can roll consistently past that if there's enough room.
Distance Drivers:
ESP Surge- 1 beat to very straight, 1 fresh.
X Avenger- Annys, turnovers, straight shots, rollers
Z Crush- Hyzers, Thumbers, side arms
Fairway Drivers:
Z XL- Annys, straight shots, shorter rollers. One of my favorite discs.
ESP Cyclones- Straight shots that are just out of reach of my mids. Holes under 300ft that I don't want to power a mid to reach.
Mids
Z Wasp- My most accurate disc. My most used mid off the tee. Hyzers shots that are easily snapped to straight.
ESP Meteor- Annys. Straight shots when mobility is limited. Used a lot for wooded holes. Not really my disc for a wide open midrange shot, but a good disc that is used when I need to go right and get fairway driver like distance without the speed that a fairway driver requires.
Putter
D Challenger- I carry two. Used for upshots under 200ft, off the tee under 250ft. I used to use my wasp for the majority of my upshots, but now I have a hard time not using my Challenger for most shots.
Disc that have been rotated in and out
Pro Katana- I keep putting it in and out of my bag. I find it's too inconsistent. I don't like the Champ Katana, and the Star is not really needed compared. I like the Pro Katana only for long annys and rollers. It's a great roller, but I can roll my X Avenger and ESP Surge more accurately.
ESP Nuke- I like this disc. The only problem is that is goes about the same distance as my ESP Surge, though on a good rip it gives me about 10-20% more distance. The wider rime makes it a little more inconsistent for me. It does distance hyzers better than any other disc in my bag, so sometimes I put it back in on holes that I need to go around 350+ on a hyzer hole. I'll probably not keep in my bag unless I'm getting my Surges farther.
ESP Predator- I like this disc, and I should always keep it in my bag. The only thing is, that once I got hooked on my Z Crushes, I find I can make my Crushes fly the same likes but a lot easier. Before it was the Z Avenger that took a lot of time away from my ESP Pred, but I replaced the Z Avenger with the ESP Crush, because they took the same roles (the rim on the crush is a lot friendlier to my hand, the avenger sometimes has too much of a sharp rim, and hurts to throw when it's really cold). Very accurate up to about 300-325. Where I am in Texas, my Z Crushes can still handle most of the wind we get here, to the point that wind isn't such a huge factor that I have to have a meathook in my bag just for headwind.
ESP Force- For when I don't want to care about form. I can put this disc about 325-350. I'm not throwing this for max D. Just mainly using a bunch of OAT and cranking it out to the right and then having it fade back, for what I call my "sloppy S distance" shot. I know it's too fast for me. I know how it flys for me. I can throw it ok, and it's strangly accurate for me. It's like a faster pred for me. I don't always carry it, but I do put it in on windy days or days when my form is bad. When my form is off, and I'm angry, I can chunk this thing more accurately than most of my distance drivers. Probably won't take a permanant spot in my bag unless I start throwing a lot farther.
Z Buzzz- I want to like this disc, but I keep finding myself using my Challenger, Z Wasp, and ESP Meteor for the bulk of my upshots, that there rarely are holes when I feel like I need it. If nothing else, I feel that adding it is overlap because of my other mids, and my Z XL and ESP Cyclones. It's a great disc, but seldom used in my bag. Sorry Buzzz.
Avenger SS- I use this disc in the woods for straight shots that I need to power down, or for some rollers. I don't really love it for either, but it's a fun disc sometimes, and it gets a spot when I go to wooded courses.
Champ Teebird- I want to like this discs, but my Z XL, ESP Cyclone, and X Avenger cover most of the shots that I would use this disc for. I'm sure I'll get plenty of "put the teebird in, drop the discraft crap", but I'm way more familiar with those 3 discs, and use them for shots the teebird doesn't do for me as much. I was hoping that it would take the role of a few of my discs in my bag, but I don't see it happening.
Rogue- I love this disc too. But it's too much of a blend between my X Avenger and my ESP Surge, especially my beat ESP Surge. I use this disc for rollers, max D wide open drives. it's a really fun disc to throw, I hate not having it in my bag, but my surge and x avenger do about the same thing, and the rogue is just not as versitale as the surge or the x avenger.
I've probably typed too much..... Thanks for any opinions or suggestions.
I throw between 325-360, depending on how well I'm actually playing. Can roll consistently past that if there's enough room.
Distance Drivers:
ESP Surge- 1 beat to very straight, 1 fresh.
X Avenger- Annys, turnovers, straight shots, rollers
Z Crush- Hyzers, Thumbers, side arms
Fairway Drivers:
Z XL- Annys, straight shots, shorter rollers. One of my favorite discs.
ESP Cyclones- Straight shots that are just out of reach of my mids. Holes under 300ft that I don't want to power a mid to reach.
Mids
Z Wasp- My most accurate disc. My most used mid off the tee. Hyzers shots that are easily snapped to straight.
ESP Meteor- Annys. Straight shots when mobility is limited. Used a lot for wooded holes. Not really my disc for a wide open midrange shot, but a good disc that is used when I need to go right and get fairway driver like distance without the speed that a fairway driver requires.
Putter
D Challenger- I carry two. Used for upshots under 200ft, off the tee under 250ft. I used to use my wasp for the majority of my upshots, but now I have a hard time not using my Challenger for most shots.
Disc that have been rotated in and out
Pro Katana- I keep putting it in and out of my bag. I find it's too inconsistent. I don't like the Champ Katana, and the Star is not really needed compared. I like the Pro Katana only for long annys and rollers. It's a great roller, but I can roll my X Avenger and ESP Surge more accurately.
ESP Nuke- I like this disc. The only problem is that is goes about the same distance as my ESP Surge, though on a good rip it gives me about 10-20% more distance. The wider rime makes it a little more inconsistent for me. It does distance hyzers better than any other disc in my bag, so sometimes I put it back in on holes that I need to go around 350+ on a hyzer hole. I'll probably not keep in my bag unless I'm getting my Surges farther.
ESP Predator- I like this disc, and I should always keep it in my bag. The only thing is, that once I got hooked on my Z Crushes, I find I can make my Crushes fly the same likes but a lot easier. Before it was the Z Avenger that took a lot of time away from my ESP Pred, but I replaced the Z Avenger with the ESP Crush, because they took the same roles (the rim on the crush is a lot friendlier to my hand, the avenger sometimes has too much of a sharp rim, and hurts to throw when it's really cold). Very accurate up to about 300-325. Where I am in Texas, my Z Crushes can still handle most of the wind we get here, to the point that wind isn't such a huge factor that I have to have a meathook in my bag just for headwind.
ESP Force- For when I don't want to care about form. I can put this disc about 325-350. I'm not throwing this for max D. Just mainly using a bunch of OAT and cranking it out to the right and then having it fade back, for what I call my "sloppy S distance" shot. I know it's too fast for me. I know how it flys for me. I can throw it ok, and it's strangly accurate for me. It's like a faster pred for me. I don't always carry it, but I do put it in on windy days or days when my form is bad. When my form is off, and I'm angry, I can chunk this thing more accurately than most of my distance drivers. Probably won't take a permanant spot in my bag unless I start throwing a lot farther.
Z Buzzz- I want to like this disc, but I keep finding myself using my Challenger, Z Wasp, and ESP Meteor for the bulk of my upshots, that there rarely are holes when I feel like I need it. If nothing else, I feel that adding it is overlap because of my other mids, and my Z XL and ESP Cyclones. It's a great disc, but seldom used in my bag. Sorry Buzzz.
Avenger SS- I use this disc in the woods for straight shots that I need to power down, or for some rollers. I don't really love it for either, but it's a fun disc sometimes, and it gets a spot when I go to wooded courses.
Champ Teebird- I want to like this discs, but my Z XL, ESP Cyclone, and X Avenger cover most of the shots that I would use this disc for. I'm sure I'll get plenty of "put the teebird in, drop the discraft crap", but I'm way more familiar with those 3 discs, and use them for shots the teebird doesn't do for me as much. I was hoping that it would take the role of a few of my discs in my bag, but I don't see it happening.
Rogue- I love this disc too. But it's too much of a blend between my X Avenger and my ESP Surge, especially my beat ESP Surge. I use this disc for rollers, max D wide open drives. it's a really fun disc to throw, I hate not having it in my bag, but my surge and x avenger do about the same thing, and the rogue is just not as versitale as the surge or the x avenger.
I've probably typed too much..... Thanks for any opinions or suggestions.
