I can't find any mention of this in a google search---remarkable for almost anything, let us alone such a successful event. Can you offer any links confirming its success, that we might learn from?
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specs and rules to move DG from kids game to pro sport
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I can't find any mention of this in a google search---remarkable for almost anything, let us alone such a successful event. Can you offer any links confirming its success, that we might learn from?
The PDGA we have now is nothing like Ed's PDGA. Ed's PDGA was based on using events to promote his baskets so he could sell more baskets. It was advertising for DGA.
ForTheGlory
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http://helenair.com/news/disc-golf-grows-up/article_7018927c-d1d8-11df-879f-001cc4c03286.html
The first paragraph makes a vague reference about drinking downtown between holes.
This Michael bacon guy sure is good for the forums. I hope he keeps posting.
If you are such a big deal in the disc golf world, going back so many years I ask again: how come myself, my father Dave or Greg Wermers have never heard of you? Do you work for Ted Mead? He was also a pioneer in Montana disc golf.
Also, I am from Missoula which is less than two hours from Helena. Ive never seen this magical course that runs downtown (but Helena is so hilly that it would make some cool elevation changes) and the only active courses in Helena right now are Deerknuckle (object course) and Hyzer Hills. The only tournaments I ever remember near Helena "back in the day" were the Burning Down the House events at the old Marysville temp course owned by Greg.
Nevertheless, I reiterate my position that disc golf is fine right now. Its okay not to be big timw. There was a huge boom around 88-94 with big corporate sponsors like Budweiser andWendys and still no one made a ton of money, not even KC.
Changing specs wont make the sport any bigger. Then again, Im also not opposed to par 2s for tournament play, provided its for Open players only and used sparingly and wisely.
Thanks. That seems to be a pretty thorough article on the state of "folf"/disc golf in Helena, though it is a bit dated. Interesting that they didn't include "Wildflower a disc golf event with thousands of attendees just celebrated 38 years ".
Yeah, Mr. Bacon does have a touch for enlivening these forums.
The Hammer
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I just got this PM from the Baconator. Not sure why.
michael bacon said:
The more I read the more Michael Bacon appears to be just another internet troll. Probably some dude sitting in his mom's dark basement getting his jollies off of irritating people on some random forum.
Shame I fell for it myself.
-Dave
Shame I fell for it myself.
-Dave
Dont be shamed. When he first posted I was excited to meet another "folfer" from Montana's early discing days. When I started asking around to my dad and his friends and no one had ever heard of him, then I knew Id been had.
Nevertheless, he did bring up an interesting topic in an interesting way. But hey, I like our "kids game" just the way it is...and for the record, Ive never seen anyone on meth even near a disc golf course.
I don't know about an interesting way, but there are definitely some interesting topics for discussion in this thread. I find it unfortunate that so often with these kinds of topics, they are either brought up in an adversarial way (like the OP did) or people react in an adversarial way.
We're all passionate about the sport. We wouldn't be posting on an internet forum dedicated to it if we weren't. As passionate participants, we all have ideas or thoughts on the game that we like to express. It would be really nice if we could talk about things just for the fun of talking about them, without every conversation breaking down into the equivalent of a fist fight. If it's not the "the game is broken the way it is, change it all", it's the "the game is fine, how dare you suggest even the slightest change" crowd getting their hackles up. Or the "don't tread on me" non-competitive players getting worked up about rules that really only matter to the competitive folks who play in tournaments, or vice-versa where competitive players get upset at people playing their casual games their own way. Not every conversation has to be taken as life and death, if I don't win this argument the world will end kind of situations.
Sometimes it's fun to discuss how an idea might play out without it actually being a hard line campaign to change the entire sport overnight. Hypothetical ideas can be fun without having to be a true goal for the sport.
Which was precisely the OP's intention...
...for precisely that purpose.
To be honest, I like it when we can discuss matters about our game/sport that are a bit outside the box, but people like the OP seem to think that their theory holds more merit than the practice of others who have gone before them and have the cred to show that they actually tried.
michael bacon
Newbie
Viewing these post it really is new players showing contempt for those that spent decades promoting the game.
dandaman
Birdie Member
Oh Michael-you're hilarious. Please continue posting away. Inform us our wrongs and help right the sinking ship that is called disc golf.
You know, I've been in for two decades. You've lost me, I don't know what you are getting at.
Do me a favor, give me your "dream." If everything went exactly like you want it to, what would happen and what would the sport look like in the end? That would help me understand what you are getting at here.
Thanks.
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You could respond to me about this, guy. You seem to be ignoring the one guy here (i.e. me) who is from the same area and same time frame as you. Hmmm, odd...
I dont get how your OP makes the sport "better" though? Different, maybe....but why is everyone always seeking that "next level" jump? I dont see it ever happening. There would need to be a major paradigm shift in America for that to happen.
Not only that, but a bunch of new players fabricating their "years played" in their profiles, just to annoy.
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