I went to Cedar Rock today and played two rounds from the long tees. This course is very open so it was the first time I actually got to throw the Katana. I was amazed! I shot a 58 and a 60 which is probably 10 strokes better than the last time I was there! I even parked a 488 foot hole! (downhill slope) The best thing is that it is actually a finesse driver. I got a 168g and I don't have to throw it any harder than my Valk, just slow and smooth and that things bolts out of sight. It goes so far so fast though that sometimes I would lose sight of it and have to look for it for a few minutes, that is a problem I can handle though! I fought with myself over buying this disc after buying the Groove and Boss which both didn't work out for me. However I am so glad that I caved in!