Dude, 450' is a perfect shot in the open on a warm day, we won't be seeing any of those any time soon. Have you played Shoaff's alternates, yet?
No I have not played the alternate tees yet, you were the one that mentioned to me that they existed. I suggested Shoaff because it's the only course in the Fort that has open longer holes.
I wish I would have measured my distance when I first started to know how much I've improved since then. Anyways, hopefully I can work on it in the spring and start hitting the 400s consistently.