She did allude to it a bit in the Smashboxx interview. I got the impression that the bonus structure wasn't quite equivalent...like the bonus for a win in MPO at a certain event (say, an A-tier) paid more than a win in FPO, for players who were nominally on the same level sponsorship-wise. Though, in the company's eyes it could go beyond simply a gender thing as an MPM win probably also pays a smaller bonus than an MPO win.
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Top Pros M/F: Total Compensation?
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She did allude to it a bit in the Smashboxx interview. I got the impression that the bonus structure wasn't quite equivalent...like the bonus for a win in MPO at a certain event (say, an A-tier) paid more than a win in FPO, for players who were nominally on the same level sponsorship-wise. Though, in the company's eyes it could go beyond simply a gender thing as an MPM win probably also pays a smaller bonus than an MPO win.
Lazerface
Eagle Member
These top men/women better get 100% of their travel expenses and entry fees covered. I bet that group is small though.
Other than a handful of players I think touring = a net loss for the vast majority and anyone who is not in the top 10 or so is able to make a small profit from side hustles (clinics, selling stuff, etc)
Let's just say those without side jobs are not exactly saving up a retirement. Disc golf retirees are going to be the collapse of the American economy for sure.
Other than a handful of players I think touring = a net loss for the vast majority and anyone who is not in the top 10 or so is able to make a small profit from side hustles (clinics, selling stuff, etc)
Let's just say those without side jobs are not exactly saving up a retirement. Disc golf retirees are going to be the collapse of the American economy for sure.
They are not getting 100% of their travel covered or they prob wouldn't be couch surfing in whatever towns they are travelling to. Entries, yeah, but all travel expenses not even close.
allinpflop
Eagle Member
Even Paul doesn't make that much and he is making the most of anyone...you better love the sport in order to be a touring pro bc it is a terrible way to try and make a living for anyone else. It really shouldn't be a surprise that they don't make much money....disc golf isn't a spectator sport. Until millions of people start watching (like they do in skateboarding) and outside sponsor money comes in nothing will change.
Vonbeezy1
Banned
LOL
I bet Paul makes more net income than 99% of disc golfers make at their day jobs.
allinpflop
Eagle Member
That is probably true....I am part of the 1 percent and don't fit many of the disc golf stereotypes....and don't consider Paul as earning very much. I'm sure to many disc golfers even a 50k a year job sounds like a lot.
Cgkdisc
.:Hall of Fame Member:.
Note that at least among PDGA members, close to 55% indicate household income over $50K:
http://www.pdga.com/files/2015_disc_golf_and_pdga_demographics.pdf
http://www.pdga.com/files/2015_disc_golf_and_pdga_demographics.pdf
Inversely proportional to player rating?
Cgkdisc
.:Hall of Fame Member:.
Possible, but more likely proportional to age?
Which is sort of what I was thinking, at least tongue-in-cheek. All these Masters and above players who aren't as good as their Open/Advanced compatriots, but boosting the average income stats.
Vonbeezy1
Banned
Household income generally includes 2 people. So that's not really a fair comparison to mcbeth by himself
Vonbeezy1
Banned
I'm fairly certain that there was speculation he was pulling over 6 digits a year after everything. Then again, that's speculation.
50K is a comfortable amount a year to live on unless you live in California or NY lol I'm not sure too many regular people would scoff at 50k a year...
Cgkdisc
.:Hall of Fame Member:.
High percentage of single households in disc golf, and even if you go to $100K+ households, it's still 18%.
Agricolae
Eagle Member
Can you further subdivide the 18% at higher income levels?
Cgkdisc
.:Hall of Fame Member:.
The data may be there but currently not analyzed to that level.
lyleoross
* Ace Member *
As an FYI, I know three or four engineers, a couple of Docs, and at least three small business owners that play. All over 40. I think the assessment of young vs old is probably pretty correct.
Royalhghnss
Double Eagle Member
Paul does pretty well for himself. A lot better than you're guessing.
I bet it's 99.99% compared to disc golfers. He's a 1% in the general population.
allinpflop
Eagle Member
There's no way he is a one percenter.....do you guys really think he is profiting 450k a year? I would be shocked if he even makes 150k and that's before all of his expenses.
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Royalhghnss
Double Eagle Member
I hope you're sitting down.
He makes well over double your shocked number. Closer to the 1% cutoff. I honestly wish it was public knowledge. I think it would help legitimize our sport, and attract more people to the game. Sorry for blabbing Paul if you read this
allinpflop
Eagle Member
I hope you're sitting down.
He makes well over double your shocked number. Closer to the 1% cutoff. I honestly wish it was public knowledge. I think it would help legitimize our sport, and attract more people to the game. Sorry for blabbing Paul if you read this
Of course I won't believe this until I hear it from Paul or see a tax return but yes I would be extremely shocked.....no wonder Val decided to quit Innova if they are in fact sending that much cash his way.
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