I've had the innova standard bag for 5 years. Bought it freshman year of college, and would play about 2-3 times a week all the way through graduation. I'm working now, and started to get back into disc golf, I've picked up some new discs and I needed a bigger bag. The standard bag was pretty much still in great shape. a little faded yeh, but all in all I was really surprised by the durability. I recently purchases an innova competition with the back savers and I gotta say i'm very happy with it. I was going with either it or the fade tourney, but the quality and material just seemed a whole lot better than the fade. Oh... and I sold my standard bag for $15 to a fellow disc golfer. pretty awesome since I spent $25 on it 5 years ago. Too bad my cars dont hold value like that. =(