150 bag for an old fart

[zontar]

Ha I know right... it's going to be a lot like the switch. Hmmm it is a lot like the switch... was it more stable or less stable than you thought? That flat run was different from my first experience with the circuits, so I stocked up on them all 171. That's the first full weight drivers in the bag for me in a long time.

Definitely flippy in a headwind so I can see how hyzer flipping might not work. Nose up actually works with them a bit anyways.

Glad to see the proxy is holding your putting slot, it's a good disc and soft e envy.

171? have you moved to the dark side?:|

 

[ThrowaEnvy]

171? have you moved to the dark side?:|

I assure you it was purely an accident. Kinda the middle ground between a 155 relay and 155 tesla.

 

[Monocacy]

Ha I know right... it's going to be a lot like the switch. Hmmm it is a lot like the switch... was it more stable or less stable than you thought? That flat run was different from my first experience with the circuits, so I stocked up on them all 171. That's the first full weight drivers in the bag for me in a long time.

Rhythm is more stable than I expected for sure. Not easy to turn (which would have been fine), but with a surprisingly strong finishing fade. 150s G* Leopard3 is more what I was looking for - something I can hyzer flip to straight or toss RHBH with trouble left.

Glad to see the proxy is holding your putting slot, it's a good disc and soft e envy.

Yessir, both fine discs. I am both impressed and slightly annoyed by how long they take to beat in, even in Soft Electron.

 

[Monocacy]

Lost my last Origin while on the road so I picked up a couple of Halo Mako3's as replacements. Whoa, I might just have found my new favorite midrange.

I know a few folks had recommended the Mako3, so thanks!

Mako3 is taking a lot of throws from the Hex, so I might switch to Reactor as my stable mid for a bit better separation.

 

[jakebake91]

Lost my last Origin while on the road so I picked up a couple of Halo Mako3's as replacements. Whoa, I might just have found my new favorite midrange.

I know a few folks had recommended the Mako3, so thanks!

Mako3 is taking a lot of throws from the Hex, so I might switch to Reactor as my stable mid for a bit better separation.

This is blasphemous!

 

[Monocacy]

Usually carry 9 to 12 discs, depending on the course.

Distance:
157 Neutron Wave: Main distance driver, slightly understable and remarkably straight, flicks nicely. On windy days I may add a more beefy N Wave.
153 Fission Insanity: Understable but controllable, and just as long as my distance drivers so that's what I'm calling it.

Fairway:
157 Star TL: Nearly stable and workable.
152 G* Leopard: New to the bag and predictably understable, so I'm testing whether the Star Hawkeye still has a role.

Midrange:
167 Neutron Hex: Do-it-alll stable and workable midrange. Sometimes I carry a Reactor instead, and sometimes I carry both. Still working that out.
171 Neo Origin: Neutral to understable. I use this often for woods approaches that are beyond putter range.

Putters:
171 Electron Soft Proxy: Main putter, understable approach.
172 Electron Soft Envy: Straight-stable approach disc.
172 Medium Harp: Overstable approach, headwind putts

Been a while, so here is a spring update:

153 Fission Wave in, Neutron Wave out. The new batch of Neutron Waves are domey and more stable than I want. Fission Waves are closer to the old Neutron Waves, but not quite as reliable in a headwind.

152 G* Leopard back in, after throwing G* Roadrunners for a while. A slower disc fits my understable fairway slot better, especially as my throws get shorter.

171 XT Pro Mako3 in, Origin out. XT Mako3 fits that "longer putter" slot perfectly.

Otherwise everything is the same. Probably why I haven't updated for a while.

 

[Curtis_Valk]

That lightweight G* leopard intrigues me since I like G* plastic and I have a beat to snot pro leopard that will turn for days if I keep the nose down.

 

[Monocacy]

That lightweight G* leopard intrigues me since I like G* plastic and I have a beat to snot pro leopard that will turn for days if I keep the nose down.

I could see a G* Leo replacing a beat Pro. Doesn't take too much seasoning before it flips up and drifts gently right, even at my increasingly modest distance

 

[Monocacy]

Had a couple of *TLs flip on my in the spring winds (and probably bad form) so I tossed a Neutron Inertia in the bag for the first time in years. Whoa!

I remember why the Inertia was my main distance driver for so many years. Hmm, this could cause a driver shake-up.

 

[ThrowaEnvy]

Had a couple of *TLs flip on my in the spring winds (and probably bad form) so I tossed a Neutron Inertia in the bag for the first time in years. Whoa!

I remember why the Inertia was my main distance driver for so many years. Hmm, this could cause a driver shake-up.

Oooh you got my attention! It is a truly great disc, it makes me want to revisit mine as well, but I was having trouble getting my 158 fission Rhythm up to speed yesterday f@#!...

I know it was the wave dabbling that shelved mine after a solid 4 yr run as my main driver.

 

[Monocacy]

Oooh you got my attention! It is a truly great disc, it makes me want to revisit mine as well, but I was having trouble getting my 158 fission Rhythm up to speed yesterday f@#!...

I know it was the wave dabbling that shelved mine after a solid 4 yr run as my main driver.

I am sadly familiar with not getting drivers up to speed.

Yeah the Neutron Inertia made me realize just how much I missed my old Neutron (or even Plasma) Waves. Perhaps I can use my Fission Insanity to replace the Fizz Waves.

Heck I might just go Inertia - Insanity - Leopard. I would love to simplify my drivers.

 

[ThrowaEnvy]

Yeah I always have a soft spot for the wave but trying to pick the right weight/plastic and angle for the extra 30' magic shot kinda lost out to a wider margin of error forgiveness and landing in the fairway... whatever disc that may be. The waves fun for dubs but not smart for me in a solo tourney, i dont always get it up to speed.

I'm still more likely to pack my stupid fission octane though, same kinda distance and a more reliable fade.

I wish the inertia would get more love.

 

[Monocacy]

Throwing distance has declined lately, so I simplified the bag and shifted to slower drivers:

Inertia in, Wave out. What is old is new again
G*TL3 in, G* Leopard out
Reactor in, Hex out (but when I play with one midrange, Hex is the one)
Pixel in, Proxy and Envy out

Distance:
157 Neutron Inertia: Main distance driver, on the understable side of neutral but quite versatile. I miss my Waves but Waves ain't what they used to be. Sadly, neither is my throwing distance.
152 Fission Insanity: Understable but controllable, main driver in the woods, and sometimes the longest disc in my bag.

Fairway:
157 Star TL3: Nearly stable and workable.
153 G* TL3: Flippy and glidey but with a smidge of finishing fade that occasionally keeps me out of trouble. Still evaluating but I kind of like having just one mold for fairway drivers

Midrange:
163 Fission Reactor: Midrange version of the Star TL. I like having a mid and a fairway that fly the same lines.
167 Star Mako3: Straight-stable and workable
165 XT Mako3: Understable

Putters:
172 Electron Soft Pixel x 2: This has replaced the Proxy for putting, and the Envy and Proxy for approaches. I did not expect much but clicked with the Pixel right away
172 Medium Harp: Overstable approach, headwind putts

 

[ThrowaEnvy]

Wow, gotta watch out for that sneaky pixel... are you getting the ridiculously long throw ins and putts as well?

 

[Monocacy]

Wow, gotta watch out for that sneaky pixel... are you getting the ridiculously long throw ins and putts as well?

Ridiculously long? Sadly, no.

I do notice the Pixel staying straight for an extra few feet on outside-circle putts. Maybe pushing my step-putt range from edge of circle 2 to just outside circle 2. If that doesn't get me on the pro tour, I don't know what will.

 

[ThrowaEnvy]

Ridiculously long? Sadly, no.

I do notice the Pixel staying straight for an extra few feet on outside-circle putts. Maybe pushing my step-putt range from edge of circle 2 to just outside circle 2. If that doesn't get me on the pro tour, I don't know what will.

Haha damn too bad... the thing that endeared it to my bag was some of the 50 Footers that I was making, I've never been so confident on longer putts before, rather than just lobbing it on the side of the basket and waiting for the fade to bring it down close I find myself running them a little bit more with more of a lofty straight at it approach.

 

[ru4por]

I have picked up a couple Prodigy Air D2 and D3. All in the 155-158 range. Both have a bit less fade than my Air Kings and the D3 can flip flat and go.....if you get the hyzer angle spot on.

 

[Monocacy]

... the thing that endeared it to my bag was some of the 50 Footers that I was making, I've never been so confident on longer putts before, rather than just lobbing it on the side of the basket and waiting for the fade to bring it down close I find myself running them a little bit more with more of a lofty straight at it approach.

I have certainly made more Pixel putts in the 50 - 65' range than with the Proxy. Just a little easier to keep the Pixel straight on a lofty approach without leaving a long comeback putt.

Most likely outcome from that range is still a miss, but that is not the Pixel's fault.

 

[nothinbuttree]

Has anyone tried the newly expanded Z-lite offerings from Discraft? Curious about some of the 9-12 speed stuff.

Also, when a disc is lighter, does the speed at release necessary to achieve the stated speed rating (1st number) on the disc change any? For example, if a speed of 65mph (guessing here) is required to get a 175g nuke to its stated flight pattern, will that required speed be lower on a 150g nuke? Seems like if someone let go of a 150g nuke at 65mph, it would turn into a throller at best...So curious if there is any empirical data. Trying to figure out what weight/flight characteristics I should be looking for to max out my distance on wide open holes--I play Caesar Ford about once a month for instance. Seems like the lighter weights are horrible in wind (expected), but also tend to start turning over quicker than their normal weight brethren.

Final questions--are there any ways to test out discs (either in a field or indoor setting) that folks are aware of without flat out purchasing them? I live in SW Ohio. We had a local shop with an indoor driving range but they shut that down for extra storage. Also would love to know my speed at release but haven't been able to find any place to do that either.

Thanks for any insights!

 

[ru4por]

Has anyone tried the newly expanded Z-lite offerings from Discraft? Curious about some of the 9-12 speed stuff.

Also, when a disc is lighter, does the speed at release necessary to achieve the stated speed rating (1st number) on the disc change any? For example, if a speed of 65mph (guessing here) is required to get a 175g nuke to its stated flight pattern, will that required speed be lower on a 150g nuke? Seems like if someone let go of a 150g nuke at 65mph, it would turn into a throller at best...So curious if there is any empirical data. Trying to figure out what weight/flight characteristics I should be looking for to max out my distance on wide open holes--I play Caesar Ford about once a month for instance. Seems like the lighter weights are horrible in wind (expected), but also tend to start turning over quicker than their normal weight brethren.

Final questions--are there any ways to test out discs (either in a field or indoor setting) that folks are aware of without flat out purchasing them? I live in SW Ohio. We had a local shop with an indoor driving range but they shut that down for extra storage. Also would love to know my speed at release but haven't been able to find any place to do that either.

Thanks for any insights!

I have not. I live in Discraft country and am also curious. I simply have a set bag with lots of backup....I try REALLY hard to skip on experimental purchasing. If I run across some as a player pack of payout option, I might venture into some.

I think I am able to generate a touch more release speed, because of the lower weight, to achieve stated speed rating. Perhaps the lighter disc needs less release speed.....I am not sure, it would require some actual testing, maybe with a Tech Disc?

Some brick and mortar disc stores have disc test options. Especially those located at courses. The Throw Shop in Ypsilanti Michigan and the store at Mt Airy in Kentucky come to mind.