CHECK IN - Rules 2025 - Support if you agree.

[Chains Bailey]

Please copy, paste and send my message to the RC if you agree as a TD - Thank You.

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My message:


1.04.A. Pre-tournament check-in is required for players in Players are required to check in with the Tournament Director or designated tournament staff member at A- and B-Tier events. and This is suggested for all other Tiers

Just include C-Tiers. You are opening up a HUGE problem for TDs. You are making us blind to who is there or not.

With no check-in required there is a good chance that groups of TWO are standing at the tees when the event starts. The TD has no way of knowing who is present or not.

The TD has no way of arranging groups after check-in to make sure there are no two-somes.

Additionally, for a filled event, if there are 2 players waiting to register on site IF there are no-shows - You have now opened up the possibility of a TD creating 5-somes OR declining the waiting players because we have no way of knowing if the 7 players who did not check-in are even at the event.

This is SIMPLE:

- NOT including C-Tiers opens up many potential (Likely) problems for the TD that may multiply into additional problems = F' You TD deal with it.
- Including C-Tiers = NO PROBLEMS...... and safeguards for the TD to run a smooth event - avoid 2-somes - avoid 5-somes - take in players on site to fill no-shows.

I realize that a TD can just post that check-in is required, but that should never be necessary - It should be a given that ALL players are accustomed to and know is their responsibility.

 

[Sewer bill]

I don't understand how this isn't a rule for all tiers. Even the who can get the most drunk x tier tournament should have the TD aware of who is present.

I don't mind 5somes though.

 

[BogeyNoMore]

I don't understand how this isn't a rule for all tiers.

^ this

 

[ru4por]

Shrug. Kind of a solution looking for a real problem. The above really only helps cover....trophy only, shotgun start, C tiers. If you are handing out player packs you have a built in check in. If you are running tee times, you again have a built in check in. I have never played any event that did not outline player check in at registration. Our tournaments have a statement in the tournament page that informs players of mandatory check in, with time and failure could result in losing your spot to a waitlist player. I don't know of any players that would just wander out to their hole.

 

[krupicka]

Not sure how I missed seeing this proposed change (it did not come out of the Rules Committee). Yuck!

 

[roblee]

Here is from PDGA on line rules:

1.04 EVENT CHECK-IN

This sets standards for TDs to notify players of check-in requirements. It also outlines player check-in requirements at A-Tier events with staggered starts and scheduled tee times.

A. Pre-tournament check-in is required for players in Majors, Elite Series, and A-Tier events and is suggested for all other Tiers.

It says only A-Tier so there seems to be some glitch.

 

[ToddL]

Just include C-Tiers. You are opening up a HUGE problem for TDs. You are making us blind to who is there or not..

How do you handle check-in at C-tiers now?

The current rule has been effectively unchanged since at least 2013 and hasn't included C-tiers this whole time. (2013 said Majors and NTs, 2018 added A-tiers, 2024 moved Majors/Elites to section 4.0)

 

[biscoe]

How do you handle check-in at C-tiers now?

The current rule has been effectively unchanged since at least 2013 and hasn't included C-tiers this whole time. (2013 said Majors and NTs, 2018 added A-tiers, 2024 moved Majors/Elites to section 4.0)

Right- the darn thing isn't forbidding check in, has zero effect on pretty much anything actually. Advertise mandatory check in and move on.

 

[krupicka]

All my events we require check-in. Back when we took players day-of, If we were full and there was someone on the waitlist and you did not check-in you lost your spot to someone on the waitlist.

But the anecdote on why it should be consistent across tiers.

Ran a B-tier in Indiana, and as usual required checkin (checkin times were listed on DGS and on our web site). All players checked in except one. He had not signed his leaderboard card, so I considered him a no-show. During round 1 I removed him from the event. This was covid year so we were doing same cards round 2 tee times. Second round comes around and player finds out he is not on the digital scorecard. So not only does he come to TC try to get himself back into the event saying he didn't know he had to checkin, his card waits at the tee and doesn't do anything until I get back out there, so now the entire course is backed up by almost 30 minutes. Player says, "I didn't know checkin was required" My answer "It's always required."

Part of it is I must have glossed over CM1.04.A and was operating just off CM1.04.B reading it as always required. And then even though checkin is specified on DGS in the schedule of events, some players might still think it's optional.

Had that even at my A-tier recently. Sent out an email the day before checkin to remind players of the checkin window that was listed on Disc Golf Scene. Had a number then say "I didn't know checkin was required" They weren't even planning on being in town during that time. When I don't want to set cards until after everyone has checked in, that just doesn't work.

Having consistent rules across all tiers for checkin would help avoid some of this as it would be standard operating procedure for all events.